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Party is over
We got our first load of fuel at the start of school and its our first ULSD. Our supplier does not deliver to service stations, his only customers are farmers, the railroad and fleets like us. He had previously told me he would likely have a transitioning period where his premium fuel would be ULSD and the standard would be LSD. However his supplier, the BP terminal in Des Moines, has made the switchover completely and the LSD supply line is pretty much history in Iowa.
And yes, since we are a tax exempt user its dyed ULSD.
It will be interesting to see how it effects our performance and fuel mileage.
And yes, since we are a tax exempt user its dyed ULSD.
It will be interesting to see how it effects our performance and fuel mileage.
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Originally Posted by rob_nc
Reports are mixed, but overall, you shouldn't notice a thing.
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Originally Posted by poppie
....this will be interisting,someone with a fleet,do you keep record's of fuel use from past year's??,I think my millage is off but we one truck it's harder to tell,keep us posted,thank's
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We've got a fleet of over 1000 diesel powered vehicles. Trash collection trucks, transfer trucks, and yellow iron at landfills. We've been on ULSD since the middle of last year with no real noticable difference in fuel economy. We were prepared for the worst, considering some of the horror stories that predicted all kinds of problems and failures. None came true. It's been a harmless transition (for us).
Our biggest headache is the CARB diesel particulate filter rule for Solid Waste Collection Vehicles. Now there's a few million dollars!
Our biggest headache is the CARB diesel particulate filter rule for Solid Waste Collection Vehicles. Now there's a few million dollars!
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True, but observed to be some of the worst offenders for putting out soot -- not surprising when you consider how and when soot is produced in a diesel engine.
Are they making you retrofit existing vehicles, or is it a phased-in replacement with normal vehicle rotation? (retrofitting is always a b****...)
-blaine
Are they making you retrofit existing vehicles, or is it a phased-in replacement with normal vehicle rotation? (retrofitting is always a b****...)
-blaine
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Originally Posted by origcharger
We got our first load of fuel at the start of school and its our first ULSD. Our supplier does not deliver to service stations, his only customers are farmers, the railroad and fleets like us. He had previously told me he would likely have a transitioning period where his premium fuel would be ULSD and the standard would be LSD. However his supplier, the BP terminal in Des Moines, has made the switchover completely and the LSD supply line is pretty much history in Iowa.
And yes, since we are a tax exempt user its dyed ULSD.
It will be interesting to see how it effects our performance and fuel mileage.
And yes, since we are a tax exempt user its dyed ULSD.
It will be interesting to see how it effects our performance and fuel mileage.
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Originally Posted by mrxlh
So does this mean that you are starting to rethink your stance on fuel addatives?
Hey, its like an ongoing test...............2004 6.0 Powerstroke.....7,500 mile oil changes......15 quart oil refills.......no fuel additives........no oil sample testing.........no cool down timers, Fumoto valves, "mods" or gauges..........no egr, injector or turbo problems........never been back to Ford for any engine issues or "reflashes"........78,000 miles so far......................
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Blaine, the diesel particulate filter requirement is a retrofit program. It's in three groups, 1987 and older, 1988 to 2002, and 2003 and newer.
Yes, trash trucks are gross polluters. But, the initial cost and on-going cost is exhorbidant.
More discussion would hyjack the thread.
Yes, trash trucks are gross polluters. But, the initial cost and on-going cost is exhorbidant.
More discussion would hyjack the thread.
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Be ready for fuel leaks on older rigs. I've got a fleet of 200 utility trucks with half of them being older mechanical diesels, and I had to replace at least half of my fuel grommets on the lines from the pump to the nozzle. Other than that it's been fairly uneventful. I'm still waiting for the mechanical pumps to start failing.
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An interesting lubricity study done on another board, it concluded that nothing beats B2 as far as the wear test goes. (B5 would be more than enough protection for the injectors lubricity wise) 2 stroke oil was second. Maybe Oricharger is on to something with the no addatives thing. However he does have a leg up on everyone cause he gets his fuel straight from the supplier, and does not have a problem with stations questionable tanks and filtration systems.
