Yeah, I know, wrong forum, but I asked in the fuel forum 3 weeks ago and haven't recieved a response, so I'll ask it here.

I need to know if there are rebuild kits available for the carter fuel pumps off FE's in the `60's. I've got a couple of them floating around, which have the bolt-on bases, and I've heard that they can be rebuilt, but can't find a kit anywhere.

Anyone have an idea if I can rebuild them, and if so where can I get a kit?

F.S.

"Ford Trucks; Eating Bow-ties for Breakfast"

`69 F100 390 4spd 300K+ miles and still rollin'!!

 

If your friendly Old School parts store (the one where they use books instead of computers) can't get you one, I wouldn't bother. I bought a Carter(Federal Mogul) pump for my old '70 F100 years ago. Cost about $30. It's rebuildable. You may have more luck looking for someone who rebuilds/restores old engines. They usually have a network of odd parts sources. Good Luck!

 

Thanks for the response.

Main reason I asked is after looking at the new, replacement pumps they sell everywhere (basically they are all Airtex, I believe); they look really cheap. The actuator arm coming out of the pump is held in place by the aluminum housing being crimped down, and there is very little metal holding the cross pin in place. So little that it doesn't look like it would take more than a little vibration to wear it loose.

After getting a good look at the old Carter that came off a similar truck (identical to the pump that is currently on my truck now) the old one looks a heck of a lot more reliable. And I've seen Carter pumps that had been "rebuilt" or "remanned" elsewhere for sale, so I figured there would have to be kits available somewhere.

Thanks again for the info!

F.S.

"Ford Trucks; Eating Bow-ties for Breakfast"

`69 F100 390 4spd 300K+ miles and still rollin'!!

 

You are right about the newer mechanical pumps crapping out easily so that's why I run electric now. I wasn't getting enough fuel flow from the holley anyway. My electric lasted a whole 800 miles but aeromotive took it and fixed it with no hassles.

 

>You are right about the newer mechanical pumps crapping out
>easily so that's why I run electric now. I wasn't getting
>enough fuel flow from the holley anyway. My electric lasted
>a whole 800 miles but aeromotive took it and fixed it with
>no hassles.
Oh Thanks Ratsmoker - now I have something else to worry about,
I just put a Holley Electric on and with all the other aftermarket problems I've had I can pretty much see Murphys Law kicking me in the butt on this too. Trevor the CACWBY in WI

 

Paul, you're right about the newer pumps being cheap. I've never torn an old pump apart, but I think the main part needed to rebuild these old pumps is the rubberized diaphram material. I'm curious now, but the only rebuildable pump I've got is on my truck. Anyone care to take an old pump apart and see what's needed to rebuild it?

 

How about a Holley mechanical pump. I know they are rebuildable.

 

>>You are right about the newer mechanical pumps crapping out
>>easily so that's why I run electric now. I wasn't getting
>>enough fuel flow from the holley anyway. My electric lasted
>>a whole 800 miles but aeromotive took it and fixed it with
>>no hassles.

> Oh Thanks Ratsmoker - now I have something else to worry
>about,
>I just put a Holley Electric on and with all the other
>aftermarket problems I've had I can pretty much see Murphys
>Law kicking me in the butt on this too. Trevor the CACWBY in
>WI

Just be thankful your last names not Murphy! (like mine)

When I throw in my rebuilt 390, I'm not going to be re-using anything off my engine, if I can help it, which makes me worry what's going to go wrong. And somehow, someway, somebody always has to come out with something about "Murphy's Law", there-by multiplying whatever small amount of jinx there was in the first place ten-fold!

Way to go, Trevor!

F.S.

"Ford Trucks; Eating Bow-ties for Breakfast"

`69 F100 390 4spd 300K+ miles and still rollin'!!

 

>Paul, you're right about the newer pumps being cheap. I've
>never torn an old pump apart, but I think the main part
>needed to rebuild these old pumps is the rubberized diaphram
>material. I'm curious now, but the only rebuildable pump
>I've got is on my truck. Anyone care to take an old pump
>apart and see what's needed to rebuild it?

I just might do that today. Got plenty of time on my hands, and I'm not too hung over to accomplish something :+

Besides, it's got to be better than sitting at my computer all day, vegging out...

F.S.

"Ford Trucks; Eating Bow-ties for Breakfast"

`69 F100 390 4spd 300K+ miles and still rollin'!!

 

>How about a Holley mechanical pump. I know they are
>rebuildable.

To many horror stories I've heard over the years of failure of Holley pumps has sort of jaded me to using them. I can't justify paying the price they want for one, thiking it's going to fail any time soon.

F.S.

"Ford Trucks; Eating Bow-ties for Breakfast"

`69 F100 390 4spd 300K+ miles and still rollin'!!

 

Ok, here's what I found out with the fuel pump today. I don't see any carter markings on it, only the AC label on the canister with the filter # and can #. Says "Made In USA" stamped in the backside of the housing.

Took it apart and it has what looks identical to an accelerator pump diaphragm off a Holley carb inside, only much bigger. The spring on top of it, looks much like a valve spring, only shorter and not as heavy. Inside on the bottom housing it has 2 check valves, which look to be pressed in. Didn't try to remove them, yet.

The actuator bar has a spring attached to the bottom of it, about half an inch away from the housing, which goes in to the housing aways, following the curve of the bar itself. I tried to drive the cross pin out, but it wouldn't budge, and didn't want to crack the housing. Don't have a press, so I'm limited there.

It looks like it should be a simple rebuild, (provided there are kits for it) but trying to get the diaphragm to hook onto the actuator arm looks rather difficult without being able to get that pin out. And the check valves are pretty nasty looking, with all the corrosion on them; don't know if they are replaceable, or if the plastic discs could stand up in a parts wash.

Might work on it more tomorrow, if I got time.


F.S.

"Ford Trucks; Eating Bow-ties for Breakfast"

`69 F100 390 4spd 300K+ miles and still rollin'!!