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I will give her a rip my brutha:
Since we all can agree that a traction bar without a shackle really limits axle flex (when used with a leaf spring), this means that the bar is simply used to "limit" axle flex, and can't completely eliminate it. By not being able to eliminate it, one still has the problem with caster change upon hard braking. Since we all know that larger tires can have a mind of thier own when under a hard braking condition, we should be able to aggre that any movement of the axle that allows a caster change would not be a great idea.
If guys are running traction bars simply with poly bushings or even fancy rod ends, then we alsi know that they have a rough ride and suspension cycles are limited and they probably do not flex too much. Here is another reason why this whole idea is not such a great one.
Now we have spent time and money on the blocks, the traction devices, probably limited articulation, and ruined an already poor ride, have not done good things for ground clearance, but did get the truckin the air a little bit.
Man the right springs are looking sooooo much better as we really start to look into things.
i'll add a little something here... i totally understand where you are coming from quad and yes you 'can' do it 'safe' BUT is it worth the extra time and cost? as 75F350 was getting at.
the point is, any and all (including rear axles) axles should be mounted as close to the centerline of the axle as possible. now as we all know the rear is far less dangerous and more manageable so we usually tolerate blocks in the rear.
even if you built the perches into the axle housing and all the leverage would still be increased and will overstress the u-bolts and mounting hardware!
Im in W.V. and its as illegal as all get out here. If you get caught your truck is red tagged and can only be moved by wrecker and you have to have it inspected on site before you can get on the road again.
Im in W.V. and its as illegal as all get out here. If you get caught your truck is red tagged and can only be moved by wrecker and you have to have it inspected on site before you can get on the road again.
dang.....
florida dont give a chit....so come down here!!!!!!!
Yeha but W.V. is a state where everyone does things cheap as possible. Noone here wants to spend money to make things right. It really makes me mad actually. So im kinda glad the regulate things like this. I mean guys would have front stacked blocks and 14" shackles and crap liek that. Noone here cares hw safe it is they just want it high and big tires.
Devil's advocate or not I don't think that you should be saying that blocks in the front end are ok in any way shape or form. All that does is give nieve, inexperienced wheelers bad ideas, making the 4 wheel community look bad as a whole.
Maybe there is a right way to do it (really doubtfull) to make it road worthy, but in the time a person would spend welding, cutting, etc. why not just throw a set of springs under it and be done. If you need to lift beyond what the aftermarket offers (or want to maintain a certain level of flex) dropped hangers are an option. But I honestly don't see front lift blocks ever being a safe way of lifting any road going vehicle. That's my 2 cents!
I use front lift blocks, and they work great. Please note, its offroad use only and the blocks are cut to fit down over the rockwell axle tube and welded to the axle. The pics in my gallery shows what im talking about. In the gallery pics they have not been welded yet. I also use full hydro steering, which takes a lot of side to side stress off the axle.
I would never run front lift blocks on a street legal truck and I have seen rear ones spit out.
I dont have a ladder bars on my truck yet but they are coming, for the rear and some type for the front because of the blocks, Dave.