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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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Question what engines are these??

I have two small blocks out in the shed.I'm looking to build ONE of them.
This one I was told is an '86 casting no.----eoae /d3c 4 . This block is in very good shape,the person I got it from had recently built it then yanked all the parts out and got rid of the block and crank. What is this engine really? I have no heads on it.
The second engine I was told came out of a Crown-Vic.It's casting number is ------e5ae / c3b. Only numbers I can find on the heads right now are (4m14).Now,I was told THIS engine has the spider provision for an "oe roller" cam.I have NO clue just what this "spider" provision is supposed to look like.So someone help me out here.Which one of these blocks are the better of the two to build up? Thanks again guys.
 

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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 09:43 PM
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The E5AE will be a roller block if the lifter valley has two bosses for the spyder. It's not the best of the roller blocks, but it's a better block than the E0AE block. That one's only worth what it'll bring at the scrap yard. It's a usuable block if it's not worn or damaged just not a desireable block to build.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 05:30 PM
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Question spider bosses??

What exactly makes the eoae more a candidate for the scrap heap than say the other/ just curious. Also,what exactly do these "bosses" look like in the lifter valley? Can u send me to a link that might "show" them,and maybe a roller cam install? thanks.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 10:05 PM
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The roller blocks have taller lifter bore bosses and two 1/2" diameter (approximately) by 1/4" tall bosses in the center of the lifter valley for the spyder hold down bolts. Sorry, can't post a pic right now. These two features are what would set the E5 block apart from the E0 block. The E0 is just a run of the mill ordinary 302 flat tappet block that weighs 120 lbs.(bare) No extra iron for strengthening, no roller tappet bores, no frills. Like I said it's an OK block for a basic rebuild, but there were so many like these cast from 1968 to 1984 that they're a dime a dozen for cores. I wouldn't pay anything above scrap prices for one.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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ok Baddad457,thank you for the very helpful info.I 'preciate it.looks like I'm gonna be building a roller block then. thanks man.
 
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