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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by NS F250
I would get a tune that turns off the regen as soon as it comes out. Apparently the truck will regen after a set amount of time or miles (not sure which one). There is a guy on another site that gutted his dpf and after time it went in to regen even though the restriction was not there. I think he had to get a new dpf for like $2500 to get it to stop. Hopefully this is just internet bs, and you won't have any problems though. Aside from that, awesome. How bout a vid.
Doubtful, but who knows. I have put over 200 miles on it without the DPF and no worries yet. We'll see what happens.

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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SANDDEMON08
What did they do with the pressure sensor in front of the DPF? I've heard that it needs to read some degree of pressure to not trip codes or the regen cycle. I'v heard some people angle the pressure sensor towards the incoming flow of exhaust to trick it for stright pipe applications.
Nothing that I can tell. Maybe I will take i9t back in and have them move it. Im gonna have Matt at Spartan Diesel take care of the engine regens via a tuner. So the sensor shouldn't be an issue after I get all dialed in with a tuner. Thanks for the heads up, Kudos to ya

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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PSD6litre40
Gutted the DPF, LOL that was smart.......
Hahahaha, I feel it was. What your sayin is kudos to me then and I thank ya kindly.

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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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I got no problems with anybody doing what they want with their truck, but it sometimes makes me wonder. From what I have been able to find out the DPF really is not that restrictive and removing it (or gutting it) will yield little or no power or mpg gains. So basically the only reason to remove it is for smoke and noise.
Is that what you were looking for Cowboy or were you expecting performance gain (honest ?)? Not looking to get into any pissing contests.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 10:13 PM
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Mine feels down on power and sounds like a street sweeper wile driving in regen mode.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by kimminau2
I got no problems with anybody doing what they want with their truck, but it sometimes makes me wonder. From what I have been able to find out the DPF really is not that restrictive and removing it (or gutting it) will yield little or no power or mpg gains. So basically the only reason to remove it is for smoke and noise.
Is that what you were looking for Cowboy or were you expecting performance gain (honest ?)? Not looking to get into any pissing contests.

That probably won't be answered until the big performance companies start tearing into it. I want a strait pipe on mine but I'm not gonna do it until they come out from a national company, not from a guys garage or custom work from an exhaust shop.

Strait piping a diesel is just a personal preference. It's what makes the trucks we own ours, who wants a cookie cutter truck? Even if the DPF isn't that restrictive it still creates back pressure, can't deny that because that's how the thing works, 2 pressure sensors gotta measure something. So taking it off will reduce your back pressure, which naturally means higher performance. (Even if it is just at higher RPM's.) I'll admit, I want the smoke and the noise, that just what makes diesels unique. If you don't like it, keep it stock, and don't complain about second hand smoke.

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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by kimminau2
I got no problems with anybody doing what they want with their truck, but it sometimes makes me wonder. From what I have been able to find out the DPF really is not that restrictive and removing it (or gutting it) will yield little or no power or mpg gains. So basically the only reason to remove it is for smoke and noise.
Is that what you were looking for Cowboy or were you expecting performance gain (honest ?)? Not looking to get into any pissing contests.
I disagree, the DPF is restrictive, In the resent diesel shoot out between the big three, it was noted that after the ford went throw a regen cycle the ford performed 1.5 sec faster.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 07:06 PM
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My truck is runnin great! To all those who think that the DPF isnt restrictive, do your homework again. Its the most restrictive of its kind. Bckpressure on turbo wheels reduces performance and spool up times. The turbinator is all the back pressure these motors need.

Im workin on gettin a custom made 5" turbo back system for the 6.4, Diamond eye is lookin into pricing for me. Cant wait! We'll keep ya posted on the DPF-less twin turbo packin pont hauler.

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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 10:33 PM
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"To all those who think that the DPF isnt restrictive, do your homework again. Its the most restrictive of its kind."

How many "kind"s are there?
 
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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3, furd, chebby, dodge. Im sure there is more but those are the main three I know of.

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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by powerstroked162
My truck is runnin great!

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So was his...until three days after he removed the DPF. Then the truck went into permanent regen mode.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SouthTexasDiesel
That probably won't be answered until the big performance companies start tearing into it. I want a strait pipe on mine but I'm not gonna do it until they come out from a national company, not from a guys garage or custom work from an exhaust shop.

Strait piping a diesel is just a personal preference. It's what makes the trucks we own ours, who wants a cookie cutter truck? Even if the DPF isn't that restrictive it still creates back pressure, can't deny that because that's how the thing works, 2 pressure sensors gotta measure something. So taking it off will reduce your back pressure, which naturally means higher performance. (Even if it is just at higher RPM's.) I'll admit, I want the smoke and the noise, that just what makes diesels unique. If you don't like it, keep it stock, and don't complain about second hand smoke.

My 2 cents.
I don't believe I complained about anything. I have done some reading on the matter and while it must be somewhat restrictive the performance loss (according to the articles I have read) is negligible and the gain by removing it is negligible.

I think the 1.5mph increase in the test was because it was actually in regen when they ran the test the first time.

I would truly like to see more information on this matter so if you have some links that discuss this please pass it on.

And I agree, do with your truck whatever you want, its yours make it how you like it because that is all that really matters.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 07:06 AM
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From what I have been able to find out the DPF really is not that restrictive and removing it (or gutting it) will yield little or no power or mpg gains. So basically the only reason to remove it is for smoke and noise.
True statement!

Before and after dyno runs showed that removing the dpf gained only 1RWHP on our stock untuned 6.4L.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 07:32 AM
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True statement!

Before and after dyno runs showed that removing the dpf gained only 1RWHP on our stock untuned 6.4L.
Where did you get this information? Just out of curiosity.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperchipsMike
True statement!

Before and after dyno runs showed that removing the dpf gained only 1RWHP on our stock untuned 6.4L.
Thats still 1 more RWHP that it had!
 
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