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Old 07-10-2007, 07:56 AM
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did'nt expect these numbers

Found some june sales of the popular trucks, here goes,
F-150 65,156
silverado 44,955
dodge ram 31,114
toy tundra 21,727
gmc sierra 15,187

Seems as if ford still holding the others at bay. to the others.
 
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Old 07-10-2007, 12:34 PM
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So you didn't expect from F-Series to outsell the competition?
 
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At least somebodies sell'en somt'en
 
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Old 07-10-2007, 01:08 PM
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Still rougly 21K more trucks than the next closest. Still goes to show Ford knows what people want/need in a truck.

My only concern is how much of a decline is this from June 2006 and how much of a decline have they had in 2007 compared to the same time frame in 2006.
 
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Old 07-10-2007, 01:35 PM
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What i did'nt expect was the numbers being so far ahead, with all the talk of the tundra and chev stuff you'de think that ford was in the toilet, take chev and gm
together and they still lag behind the f-150 and you can't even double the other
two makes to make what the f150 has sold.
 
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:55 PM
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Look at the price incentives to get those sales figures.
GM Pickups $3064 average, including "hidden" dealer incentives as well as rebates and/or financing.
Ford F-series $4272
Tundra $5083 and
Dodge Ram, a whopping $6831!

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Originally Posted by jimandmandy
Look at the price incentives to get those sales figures.
GM Pickups $3064 average, including "hidden" dealer incentives as well as rebates and/or financing.
Ford F-series $4272
Tundra $5083 and
Dodge Ram, a whopping $6831!

Jim
That's funny! Everthing I hear is Dodge is having a hard time selling their trucks. You'd think with those huge discounts more would purchase them, but I guess the MPG's and reputation deter many people right away.
 
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so even the bigger incentives did'nt get people to buy into the tundra,dodge, what do
the hidden ##'s add up to for the gm/chev trucks? more than the ford. I think Ford will
always be America's truck, at least in my eye's as I see it.
 
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:07 PM
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The Tundra was never expected to compete for sales......21,000 monthly units puts them well ahead of the 200,000 yearly capacity..


Currently in Las Vegas, you cannot find a Crew Max Tundra.

Kudos to Ford for winning June..........let's have some YTD numbers.
 
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jimandmandy
Look at the price incentives to get those sales figures.
GM Pickups $3064 average, including "hidden" dealer incentives as well as rebates and/or financing.
Ford F-series $4272
Tundra $5083 and
Dodge Ram, a whopping $6831!

Jim

Those figures may be a tad skewed......For instance, the Tundra until recently only offered rebates/financing on the 4.7/regular cabs.

As soon as the 5.7L and Crew Max got the incentives, they flew off the lots.
 
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I think the Tundra has a higher base price as well - so it's not an apples to apples comparison. Not to mention - their on a list they've never been on.
 
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Originally Posted by DOHCmarauder
Currently in Las Vegas, you cannot find a Crew Max Tundra.
I agree the CrewMax is flying off lots, but part of the reason they are hard to find is due to the # produced. Toy under estimated the # of CrewMax to produce, building more Reg. & Dbl Cab models and found out after release that they projected too high on the Reg./Dbl. Cab and too low on the CrewMax. So the availability isn't soley due to high demand, it's also partly due to the low production.
 
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The figures are averages for the whole fleet, not specific models. The big 2.5 do not discount diesels, for example. GMC/Chevy are, in total, discounting less than Ford. As for Dodge, two issues, higher sticker prices, like Toyota, and, more importantly, worry about resale if the current owners decide to shut down Chrysler and Dodge. I see new base model Rams in the Sunday paper for $11k, including rebates and discounts. It would be tempting if I could live with 2wd and a manual tranny.

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Originally Posted by V8EXPLR
I agree the CrewMax is flying off lots, but part of the reason they are hard to find is due to the # produced. Toy under estimated the # of CrewMax to produce, building more Reg. & Dbl Cab models and found out after release that they projected too high on the Reg./Dbl. Cab and too low on the CrewMax. So the availability isn't soley due to high demand, it's also partly due to the low production.
Good points.............and probably spot on.

But a couple weeks ago, I went looking at Toys with the wife. We had our choice of maybe 10 Crew Max's.........but 0 4WD's.

Went in last week, 0 Crew Max's available.
 
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I would say that toy's are only trickleing off the lots, when you see that Ford is selling
3 to 1. And im sure this covers all the models from basic to decked out.
 



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