did'nt expect these numbers
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Originally Posted by thorseshoeing
You should have said "Just ask anyone who isn't an anti-american, commie lovin, tree hugin, tofu eatin, girlie man communist." Cause we got them types 'round here (yeah DOHCmarauder, I'm talkin about you).
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Sorry, no time to respond..........I'm off in my Prius to the Greenpeace meeting.
Check back later after the Hillary rally.
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Originally Posted by DOHCmarauder
Sorry, no time to respond..........I'm off in my Prius to the Greenpeace meeting.
Check back later after the Hillary rally.
[anybody else think her cankles are hot???]
Check back later after the Hillary rally.
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Originally Posted by DOHCmarauder
The Tundra was never expected to compete for sales......21,000 monthly units puts them well ahead of the 200,000 yearly capacity..
Currently in Las Vegas, you cannot find a Crew Max Tundra.
Kudos to Ford for winning June..........let's have some YTD numbers.
Currently in Las Vegas, you cannot find a Crew Max Tundra.
Kudos to Ford for winning June..........let's have some YTD numbers.
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Originally Posted by jimandmandy
The figures are averages for the whole fleet, not specific models. The big 2.5 do not discount diesels, for example. GMC/Chevy are, in total, discounting less than Ford. As for Dodge, two issues, higher sticker prices, like Toyota, and, more importantly, worry about resale if the current owners decide to shut down Chrysler and Dodge. I see new base model Rams in the Sunday paper for $11k, including rebates and discounts. It would be tempting if I could live with 2wd and a manual tranny.
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Originally Posted by V8EXPLR
I would have to assume that this is partly due to you being located in TX and maybe the dealers there expected higher sales than they've received so far. Here in CO, the demand for a 4X4 is greater than TX, being the huge difference in climate. Also, from what I've experienced with my travels and friends/family from TX, most people are a lot more dedicated to domestics than import trucks. Here in CO, most farmers, ranchers and construction types are still opting for a domestic, while more of the business types and soccer moms are purchasing the Titans/Tundras/Ridgelines.
This is just my thoughts and experiences, could be way off, but who knows for sure.
This is just my thoughts and experiences, could be way off, but who knows for sure.
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Originally Posted by Jonas1022
Toyota dealers have the Crew Max just sitting in rows. Then again the factory is just down the street 300 miles. So what? It's new and should be selling like hotcakes to those that just have to have the "latest and greatest" anything. Imagine what it's going to sell like in two or three years. OOPS! Where are the Nissan numbers?
FYI: titantalk.com may have sales figures listed.
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Titans are big sellers in SoCal, running neck and neck with 1/2 ton Rams (despite the Rams HUGH markdowns), and out selling GMC's, Rangers, Canyons & Colorado's. Dunno what Titan sales are in TX, but Titan's don't sell well anywhere else. Reason: Nissan (actually Renault) spends very little $$$ on advertising, and gives little in the way of incentives and customer cash, about 1/4 of what GM, Ford, and Dodge offer. The higher the incentives = the less the vehicle's resale value is.
FYI: titantalk.com may have sales figures listed.
FYI: titantalk.com may have sales figures listed.
You keep saying that, Bill, and I keep showing you the incentives.......latest one is $5,000 rebate or 0% for 60 months on the '07. (even the '08 has a current rebate)
And you just don't watch network TV..........TONS of Titan ads!!!
One where they show the bed tie downs vs. the 150 tie downs and flip the bed upside down with the motorcycle in it.
The other where the locomotive is pulling the frame around a post and the chain breaks..........those ads are played more than nearly every other ad EXCEPT the Tundra 0-60-0 ad.
Last edited by DOHCmarauder; Jul 15, 2007 at 02:36 PM.
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Originally Posted by Jonas1022
Toyota dealers have the Crew Max just sitting in rows. Then again the factory is just down the street 300 miles. So what? It's new and should be selling like hotcakes to those that just have to have the "latest and greatest" anything. Imagine what it's going to sell like in two or three years. OOPS! Where are the Nissan numbers?
Maybe I'll have to go to Texas to buy one.............
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Originally Posted by DOHCmarauder
You keep saying that, Bill, and I keep showing you the incentives.......latest one is $5,000 rebate or 0% for 60 months on the '07. (even the '08 has a current rebate)
And you just don't watch network TV..........TONS of Titan ads!!!
One where they show the bed tie downs vs. the 150 tie downs and flip the bed upside down with the motorcycle in it.
The other where the locomotive is pulling the frame around a post and the chain breaks..........those ads are played more than nearly every other ad EXCEPT the Tundra 0-60-0 ad.
And you just don't watch network TV..........TONS of Titan ads!!!
One where they show the bed tie downs vs. the 150 tie downs and flip the bed upside down with the motorcycle in it.
The other where the locomotive is pulling the frame around a post and the chain breaks..........those ads are played more than nearly every other ad EXCEPT the Tundra 0-60-0 ad.
I haven't watched Network TV in 10 + years. What am I missing (besides Titan ads)? Nothing. It's PBS, the History Channel, DTMS, Travel Channel, History International, the Military Channel, TCM and NGC. That's about it.
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
This is the same scenario that occured in 2004. Nissan advertises heavily when a new model is introduced. If history repeats itself, you will see very few Titan ads next year.
I haven't watched Network TV in 10 + years. What am I missing (besides Titan ads)? Nothing. It's PBS, the History Channel, DTMS, Travel Channel, History International, the Military Channel, TCM and NGC. That's about it.
I haven't watched Network TV in 10 + years. What am I missing (besides Titan ads)? Nothing. It's PBS, the History Channel, DTMS, Travel Channel, History International, the Military Channel, TCM and NGC. That's about it.
We'll agree to disagree..........Titan ads were very prolific last year.
Offroading with the bumper slapping the body readily comes to mind.
By your own admission, you don't watch where the ads are.
If I "HAD" to give a reason for Nissan's lack of success in the full size market; they would be two fold:
1) Even though Nissan was pro-active in the fix, the first batch were considered fragile because of the diff and brake problems.*
2) IMHO the Titan looks an awful lot like the Frontier.....it just doesn't look "tough" for a full size truck. Say what you want about how ugly the Tundra is, it has a mean stance to it.*
*[the above two statements were only opinions and no animals were harmed in the making of said opinions]
