Never mind the conspiracy, just try saying "AMAwasaki" 10 times really fast!

 

Not NASCAR's fault...Ford cannot get it together.

 

NASCAR may not be pro shivy,but they have created a monster and are unwilling to do anything about it. the IROC car,or car of tomorrow as they call it,was supposed to bring parity and let the less funded teams in NASCAR be competitive because the cars would be less expensive to build and make competitve. Now enter in Hendrick motor sports. Unlimited resources and almost unlimited tests available because they have so many other teams and resources availabe at their disposal. yes,nascar limited the amount of tests per car,but what happens when they can combine all their results and use them to make their cars better? like somebody said,there are 20 plus shivies racing,8 fords,a few dodges and toyotas. now who has the advantage here? NASCAR=meet the new boss,same as the old boss. the more things change the more they stay the same. On Sundays I am rooting for ANY team that doesn't have a bowtie on it!!

 

They are making way too much money ....to want....... to change it.

 

How can you be so sure about that?

 

Just as sure as your gmna$car conspiracy.

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I agree. Take Roush for example, Jack had to or chose to go "outside" the NASCAR world for funding. ( Fenway ) Not that this a bad thing, but where is Ford in all of this? I also find it funny that Jack was the first to cry wolf about Toyota coming in the Cup series, goes out and teams up with Fenway, and now with all his "money" and "resources" only has 2 wins this year with 5 cars in the show and they are basically a mediocre team when it comes to the COT program.

Yates is another example. Rumours of teaming with DEI and confirmation that they too are looking at a deal similar to what Roush has with Fenway.

 

First off, I don't cry about this bs that's labeled stock car racing and na$car having clearly favorable rulings involving certain shivy's in the field/circus, just spelling it out as I see it and how it's fed. Obviously you have a differing opinion on the farce than do I, which is fine!

I wonder do you have a fondness for those supposed reality tv series'?

Back to the subject(s) at hand!

If gmna$car's on the up and up why don't they post the rules for God and everyone to read like most all other real racing series? What's to hide?

Why are there substantially more shivy's than any other make in gmna$car? Is it just cause they're purdier? Is it cause they have that cute wittle bowtie? Is it because they provide more factory support than does Ford, dodge or toy? I've seen no proof that gm provides more support than does Ford, dodge or toy. You?

I have, however, noticed that gm/shivy does choke it up big time in the gmna$car marketing dept, but that's not same as performance related support.

Furthermore, why can't gmna$car officiate these "supposed" rule violations the same across makes? Seems all I've seen is inconsistencies in the point deduction dept.

Why is it "only" certain shivy org's/teams get what's labeled as "gray areas" instead of rule violations and not Ford or dodge? Did gmna$car suddenly forget how to clearly write this mysterious rule book! We'll never know for sure will we!?!

Why is it "only shivy" got a previously unprecidented 2 try's at testing for this non-irocot car that has been "allowed to dominate" the field the past two seasons? Is it cause they're regarded as the red-headed step child in the series? Can't be, can it?

As for the skills of carmichael and or stewart in ama wouldn't that be a bit off of the subject at hand? And here I thought this was a gmna$car themed thread!?!

 

Ahh, so you don't have any proof it isn't a tainted series. Hmmmm

 

Seems ole Jack never got the same memo the shivy teams got regarding testing of the irocot car on tires other than goodyear's, which is why hms, rcr, dei and gibbs all tested various venues using bridgestone and firestone I believe it was.

And here I thought gmna$car was looking for parity!

 

betcha jr top fives it this weekend, look for gordon probably to take it.

 

IMO ....ALL of the Ford boys have just plain missed the boat.....for many reasons, and all their fault.

Chevy did their home work and it is paying off.

 

See here is the problem. You post your opinion, which is fine, with no proof of anything. ( just an apprent hate on for "Shivy" ) YOU make the accusations and then expect everyone else to prove otherwise. Heres an idea, try backing your own words up sometime.

Why would you even care? Why do I even care?

What subject? You were the one who derailed this thread with your gmna$car conspiracy. Read the thread title again, another NASCAR thread gone to the dogs because of your propaganda.


Once again, you tell us.

If you don't know any of these answers yourself or have any proof, makes your gmna$car theory look really stupid now doesn't it?

Your preception is duelly ( sp? ) noted. So you are blaming Chevy for spending more money? That is their fault how?

I can agree with you here, very inconsistant. Does it mean a conspiracy theory warranted? Hardly, if there is a conspiracy, NASCAR is doing a lousy job of covering it up.

See once again. Please post facts on your "only" and "grey areas" comments. Which teams? Which grey areas? And maybe someone can answer this for you. Do you just pull this stuff out of thin air?

Wrong again. It had nothing to do with gmna$car until you came along much like most of the NASCAR threads you turn into your gmna$car rant.

 

Which can apprently leads to "Shivy" paranoia......

 

wtf is a gmna$car anyways?? and shivy sounds from way down under

last time i checked theres no cap on how many fords are allowed in, nor any automaker.

is it dominating drivers or cars??

 

IT IS...Dominating teams...if HMS was driving Fords they would be winning, that is because Hendrix has a different corporate mentality and different cooperate culture then the other guys, Gibbs also has it the other teams are trying to catch up to the way they do business, no different then one business out performs another.

80% of the all NASCAR drivers given equal cars and teams could do good the other 20% will always rise above and be real good. IMO NASCA is less driver the resources….to make a wining combination.