I'm more interested in who is going to take the little cry baby, if anyone. Maybe he will do a Steve parks and fade into the abyss until he grows up a little.

 

[QUOTE=JBradley500]IMO hendrick is loosing a future champion in kyle bush

the only thing kyle busch is going to accomplish is getting puched out for the first time on the track.

his bichin and moaning and sloppy drivin got him axed

 

What I find interesting is that most of the Jr fans I know are Gordon haters. This is really going to sour their wheaties.



Meh, I'm not a fan of either. Will be interesting to watch.

One driver I have to respect is Mayfield for what he did to Sr and his comments afterward in the 2000 Pocono 500.

 

don't forget leaving the track before the race is over...haha...he really does not fit the HMS mold all the drives do now though.


Leaving the track really pissed his team off.

 

your right about that my friend, wouldnt be surprised if jimmie and jeff said, hes got to go when jr was looking to come on board.

 

Kyle Bush starting 3rd ... Dale Jr. starting 23rd

JJ Yeley has pole and who gets top billing ... Jr. starting a mediocre 23rd.

Why is it that Jr. falls into the elite category based upon what he's accomplished over a career and most other driver are scored on what they've accomplished recently?

A great publicist has he.

 

I don't like either of Busch brothers, but I kinda feel sorry for Kyle. He pretty much got fired without anyone even telling him.

 

His manger screwed up the negotiations, and didn't tell him.

 

First off, while I can respect your experience in road course, sports car racing. I question your mediocre statement and reasoning behind it.

Yes, you do make valid points about the driver being valuable in collecting data, but that's a 2 way street. A driver can tell the crew what the car right and doing wrong and they ( crew ) need to intrepret it and make the changes as they see fit. It's a team effort ( you probably know this ) and if the right people are not in the right places, everyone looks bad.

What is your experince in a stock car? Have you ever driven one? Have you ever been involved in a professional NASCAR team?

I have a 2 handicap in golf and that hardly makes anything I state about any PGA golfer credible because of my golf experience.

Lastly, your Jeff Gordon/Bill Davis posts was laughable. Do you think anyone from Bill Davis was happy about letting Gordon slip away? Are they going to tell anyone that they ( Bill Davis Racing ) dropped the ball? Probably not. According to Gordon himself in his book, his reasoning was that Davis wasn't ready to make the step up to Cup and couldn't give him any sort of concrete timeline. So when something obvioulsy better came along, Gordon took it.

Sounds like how Ford dropped the ball on the whole Kasey Kane fiasco.

 

Valid points, SMIGGS.

Only experience with NASCAR was a very short stint when David Starr first came on the scene. So, my experience is basically non-existent.

The data 2-way is a great point. Jr. has basically the same team he had when his Dad passed away. When looking at can 50 guys in the shop be bad or 1 guy in the seat be bad, law of averages kind of take over.

Tony Jr. walked away for a reason a couple years ago. I suspect he was fed up. But that would be specualtion on anyone's part, regardless of which side of the Jr. bandwagon one is on.

I have read the passage you referenced in Jeff's book. And, ironically, it was basically the press release about the change from Bill Davis Racing to Hendrick.

BDR was an upstart program and had invested all their resources in getting Jeff to Cup in a BDR car. The point about Jeff is that he showed me what kind of character he had as a person by leaving. As you might guess, I'm kind of old school and don't cotton much to free agency in any sport.

Excellent post.

 

hey jr lover how many places did jr go up to finish where he did, and who did he finish better than??

traveled 18 spots forward, unlike busch who traveled backwards.

 

Even the Texas Rangers, Detroit Lions and Boston Celtics can win a game or two. On any given Sunday ...



Look, this is a debate that cannot be won because it's an emotional stand. And I'm not sure why you think I'm a Bush fan.

I'm kind of partial to Denny Hamlin because of the FedEx commercials.

 

Hit the nail on the head with the emotional comment.

Also with the FedEx commericals. The one where he is bump drafting his neighbor with the lawn tractor cracks me up.......

 

I want that lawn mower!

 

dont think that you are a busch fan, you brought him up in comparison to jr, so i replied, hes being replaced by a better driver, and you brought them up to compare because of where they polled.

its emotional because you stated hes a mediocre driver, and hes flat out not. mediocre drivers dont have 17 wins in eight years because alot of drivers in nextel dont have 17 wins in 8 years, so there must be a bunch of mediocre drivers other than jr.