Synthetic Trans Fluid
#1
Synthetic Trans Fluid
When car makers get very specific about which trans fluids to use with a particular model trans (MERCON, MERCON V, DEXRON, TYPE F, etc.) and caution you not to mix or use the wrong type.......the question I have is........HOW IS IT THAT SYNTHETIC TRANSMISSION FLUID IS COMPATIBLE WITH ALL TRANSMISSIONS? Please clarify if I my statement is wrong. I am sure thats what I read. I used MOBIL 1 SYN TRANS FLUID in a Honda Accord with no problems, but that is my only experience. THANKS.
#2
I am no expert on tranny fluids but I recall, that most of them will have fine print saying meets such and such spec for yadda yadda type fluid.
Dexron and Mercon are close enough that I have seen dual capability fluids for decades. F is different enough that it is not compatible with Dexron/Mercon so I have read. Mercon V is supposedly slightly different from Mercon so that you are not downwards compatible but supposedly Ok to move up to V.
I am guessing the syns consider their product to be upwards compatible from the Dexron/Mercon types. I would think they don't pay a lot of attention to F type since that hasn't been used in modern trannies since maybe the 70s? I could be wrong, but this is my guessing about how they are making their claims.
I have read from a few websites that the syn fluids sometimes don't work as well as the specified fluid. I moved from dino Dexron II to Mobil 1 in a chebby and it seemed to soften my shifts. On other Fords I have heard it makes the shift hard and inconsistent.
Good Luck,
Jim Henderson
Dexron and Mercon are close enough that I have seen dual capability fluids for decades. F is different enough that it is not compatible with Dexron/Mercon so I have read. Mercon V is supposedly slightly different from Mercon so that you are not downwards compatible but supposedly Ok to move up to V.
I am guessing the syns consider their product to be upwards compatible from the Dexron/Mercon types. I would think they don't pay a lot of attention to F type since that hasn't been used in modern trannies since maybe the 70s? I could be wrong, but this is my guessing about how they are making their claims.
I have read from a few websites that the syn fluids sometimes don't work as well as the specified fluid. I moved from dino Dexron II to Mobil 1 in a chebby and it seemed to soften my shifts. On other Fords I have heard it makes the shift hard and inconsistent.
Good Luck,
Jim Henderson
#3
We need to also take into consideration, the compatability of a fluid, with the tranny's metal, elastomeric materials, like seals, gaskets, & plastic parts & clutch friction material, as well as the fluids "coefficient of friction" properties, when choosing something other than a specified tranny, or power steering fluid.
#4
Originally Posted by MLCRI$I$ II
HOW IS IT THAT SYNTHETIC TRANSMISSION FLUID IS COMPATIBLE WITH ALL TRANSMISSIONS?
#5
Coefficient of friction is the primary difference. GM is the only mfr that seems to have fully backward compatible (to the 1940's!) ATF with the Dexron series. Put it in a Type F tranny and it will slip like crazy. Ask me how I know. DCX now has +4, made by PetroCanada, that is dealer-only, so is the latest Toyota fluid. Since the lockup torque converter came into use, "shudder" has been a problem, and the "answer" seems to be "fine tuning" of the frictional characteristics of the fluid.
Jim
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