Driving over a firehose?
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From: Louisville,Ky.
You guys wanna hear a good 1?
The department in my old hometown was on a run to a house fire, Police closed off the area,THEY THOUGHT! A lady drove thru the road block to get to her house,across the street from the burning building! Cop stopped her and ordered her to go back! She told him off, HE pulled his sidearm(357 Colt Python) and told her AGAIN to go back, she refused! He pointed the CP at her, she kicked it into Reverse and ran over his foot! Well Officer RAMBO, SHOT HIMSELF IN THE FOOT! Same foot she ran over!
She was charged with obstruction of a emergency operation. $2500.00 fine!
BTW,,, No stupid question, not in fire dept. stuff,,, What is an LDH?
The department in my old hometown was on a run to a house fire, Police closed off the area,THEY THOUGHT! A lady drove thru the road block to get to her house,across the street from the burning building! Cop stopped her and ordered her to go back! She told him off, HE pulled his sidearm(357 Colt Python) and told her AGAIN to go back, she refused! He pointed the CP at her, she kicked it into Reverse and ran over his foot! Well Officer RAMBO, SHOT HIMSELF IN THE FOOT! Same foot she ran over!
She was charged with obstruction of a emergency operation. $2500.00 fine!
BTW,,, No stupid question, not in fire dept. stuff,,, What is an LDH?
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From: Lafayette, IN
I was wondering what an LDH was, too.
As for not running over a fire hose, I didn't know it was against the law, but I would think that the personnel on-scene should make sure it doesn't happen. Also, why weren't the citizens present making way for the fire trucks. i sure would. I'd be telling (ordering?) people to get out of the way if there were no emergency personnel onsite yet.
Jason
As for not running over a fire hose, I didn't know it was against the law, but I would think that the personnel on-scene should make sure it doesn't happen. Also, why weren't the citizens present making way for the fire trucks. i sure would. I'd be telling (ordering?) people to get out of the way if there were no emergency personnel onsite yet.
Jason
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Autoglass, neat photo. The fire ground commander or pump operater who okayed " catching the hydrant" in this fashion is in need of good swift kick in the a** with NFPA approved boot.It wasn't necessary. Had the chauffeur ( correct title for a fire apparatus driver) pulled ahead a few feet the hydrant person could easily wrapped the hose around the front of the car.This in turn would have eliminated a few of the kinks that reduce flow.Also in the photo the pumper is running as a supply engine to feed the ladder truck parked behind it.In the time it takes to set up the main (truck mounted) ladder the hose could have been better routed thereby saving the FD from bad public relations and having someone like me pick the photos apart.Sometimes there is no alternative to trashing a vehicle blocking a hydrant but in this case it would have been quicker not to.
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From: Cut & Shoot, Texas
Originally Posted by Autoglass
Someone asked for a photo of this kind of fire hydrant scenes!
He will love that one.
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Originally Posted by Redcat Diesel
In the time it takes to set up the main (truck mounted) ladder the hose could have been better routed thereby saving the FD from bad public relations and having someone like me pick the photos apart.Sometimes there is no alternative to trashing a vehicle blocking a hydrant but in this case it would have been quicker not to.
Moral of the story - this is what happens if you decide you want to block a hydrant with your car and there's an emergency to tend to.
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Originally Posted by Rockledge
Bad PR? I don't think so. IMO that's the exact picture that the FD, PD and most every property owner in the neighborhood wants everyone to see - a complete jerk who parked directly in front of a fire hydrant. I only hope the FD had to break the windows to do it.
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From: Connecticut
Originally Posted by Redcat Diesel
Rockledge, I think a copy of the photo ought to be mailed with every license renewal. My comment about bad PR comes from being a volunteer.Vollie companies depend on all sorts of fundraisers to pay the bills. Trashing a car can make a statement that may come back to haunt them. Ask any firefighter that has to do fundraising as part of their duties.
BTW, my brother-in-law is a volunteer fireman in his town. I get stuck buying tickets from him all the time.
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what does running over a fire hose do to it?
we used fire hoses all the time when i was in the Navy to fill up water barriers, people ran over them all the time, we would have them strung across the road all day even.
we used fire hoses all the time when i was in the Navy to fill up water barriers, people ran over them all the time, we would have them strung across the road all day even.
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Originally Posted by Redcat Diesel
The end result is called water hammer.Most people have heard the water pipes in their home rattle when say a washing machine shuts off.Since liquids are not compressable and the water is moving the sudden stopage creates shock waves thru the pipes.Since most homes are plumbed with 1/2 tubing try to imagine the rattle when you suddenly stop the water in 5" or 6" hose.Before the development of Large Diameter Hose or LDH it was common practice in the Fire Service to use a pair of 3" hoses ( known as dual 3's) to connect the hydrant to the pumper.Most departments carried hose bridges which were aluminum ramps that had troughs for the 3's to pass.Vehicles could then be driven slowly over them without damage to the hose.The idea worked well for decades but 2 things happened that changed the system.The first was LDH which is a lot bigger and harder to work with, the second was cars are a lot lower than they were 30 years ago.
As for the firefighter...At best they get their wits rattled or bounced around, at worst...well a sudden loss of water when everything else is also going very wrong...............may result in what many call.............last alarm.
As for the firefighter...At best they get their wits rattled or bounced around, at worst...well a sudden loss of water when everything else is also going very wrong...............may result in what many call.............last alarm.
