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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 01:31 AM
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In South Dakota I think the fine is $94.00. I wouldn't think twice about citing her. Attitude or not. Maybe its my strong dislike of stupid people.
I agree with you!! Why let them get away with it the first time. they did wrong, fine them. If you Tag my wall or my personal property the first time , its OK?
 
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 05:34 AM
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a few years ago, my father was responding to a house fire as the first due engine. the idiots had the street block with their cars parked off the curb on both sides, with a few of them leaving their doors open. with lights, sirens and air horns blaring, he proceeded to drive down the street at about 10 mph, ripping doors off, and bashing the crap out of over 15 cars.
every one of the cars owners was ticketed for obstructing traffic, and they all were impounded. 3 drivers were arrested for assaulting the police that were there.

around 6 months later, one town over, the second due pumper hit the hydrant. and put the 6 inch line through the windows of the brand new mercedes that was parked in front of the hydrant.
they broke both windows out, used 2 12 ft pieces of soft suction, and left the coupler loose between the front seats.
when they were done, the car was full of water. and the owner was screaming bloody murder about how they destroyed his $80,000 car.
after the police gave him a ticker for blocking a fire hydrant and impounding the car, he was told to quit being such a baby about it, shut up and go back inside.
he tried to sue the fire department for the loss of the car. ( his insurance company denied the claim due to the illegal parking), and the judge threw him out of the court.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 08:43 AM
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Yes I know it's against the law.I made similar rants when I was still active in the local VFD. Also loved boneheads who block hydrants.If we had the 30 seconds it took on a short hose lay we would loop a section of LDH around vehicle blocking a hydrant.Charge the line and you have instant impound lot.
That's hysterical! I can't believe I never thought about doing that when I was a fireman. But, I always had that daydream of putting a 6" feeder through the windows of a nice car......
 
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 1979 Ford
In South Dakota I think the fine is $94.00. I wouldn't think twice about citing her. Attitude or not. Maybe its my strong dislike of stupid people.
My thoughts exactly.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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Our city had an unscheduled fire drill one evening. This was in the late 60,s.
They went out to a salvage yard that was on both sides of a one way street.
They ran a fire hose across the street and offered to impound cars that blocked traffic
and when they drove across the hose they were fined $100.
I followed the truck out that day but didn't go up the one way road.
I red about the fines in the local paper.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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I'm sorry but I've got to disagree with the consensus here. This isn't covered in the Driver's Ed manual. Exactly where are people supposed to learn it's illegal to drive over a fire hose????? I've been driving for 37 years and I've never heard this until now. I would have thought fire hoses are made from the best material available and are just about fool proof. 'Course along comes a fool every time to prove that's wrong

Also, clearly crowd control wasn't doing it's job if a car was able to drive thru the middle of the emergency vehicles and over hoses.

I spent 6 years as an EMT years ago and you just expect people to do stupid things. It's your (responder - cop or fire or rescue) responsibility to secure the scene. If she drove around a roadblock, then you have a gripe. If not, get over it. Do it right next time.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by mtflat
I'm sorry but I've got to disagree with the consensus here. This isn't covered in the Driver's Ed manual. Exactly where are people supposed to learn it's illegal to drive over a fire hose?????
I think you can agree that not every single traffic law can be taught to a teenager in driving school.

On the other hand, if the law is on the books, and you think it's important enough to be taught in driving school, then you should write the publisher or author of the Driver's Ed manual, or contact the teacher(s), and let them know. As a former EMT and 37-year driving veteran, I think your opinion would carry some weight.

It sounds to me like the woman who drove over the hose (you know, the one who didn't want to be inconvenienced by another person's home buring to the ground with all their belongings) got in the way of emergency personnel trying to do their job. That alone is against the law here in CT, seperate and apart from running over fire hoses.
 

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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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I had no idea that driving over a fire hose was illegal, but now that im thinking about it, it does seem to be common sense that even if it wasn't illegal you still shouldn't do it.

Since we're talking about stoopid people and fire trucks, last summer in our town a truck was responding to a traffic accident, everything was going fine, everybody was pulling over to the side to let the truck go by, except for the one person who decided to stop right in the middle of the road. No big deal, the truck could just go around, right? Wrong, she was right in front of the truck and slammed on her brakes, well needless to say her car was totalled and they got another truck to respond to the first accident.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mtflat
. This isn't covered in the Driver's Ed manual. Exactly where are people supposed to learn it's illegal to drive over a fire hose????? .

lots of laws are not in the drivers ed book........Common sense would dictate.....
 
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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I for one say "hurrah" for making sure the lady understood what the law was - even if she didn't know it. Amazing how disrespectful and stupid people can be. I used to think that common sense was something everyone had... glad to hear once again that someone decided not to use their's
 
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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I can imagine some poor firefighter on the business end of the hose, leaning into his work, and some jerk runs over the hose, interrupting the pressure. What happens to the firefighter? Especially if he is on a ladder.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 02:20 PM
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I can imagine some poor firefighter on the business end of the hose, leaning into his work, and some jerk runs over the hose, interrupting the pressure. What happens to the firefighter? Especially if he is on a ladder.
The end result is called water hammer.Most people have heard the water pipes in their home rattle when say a washing machine shuts off.Since liquids are not compressable and the water is moving the sudden stopage creates shock waves thru the pipes.Since most homes are plumbed with 1/2 tubing try to imagine the rattle when you suddenly stop the water in 5" or 6" hose.Before the development of Large Diameter Hose or LDH it was common practice in the Fire Service to use a pair of 3" hoses ( known as dual 3's) to connect the hydrant to the pumper.Most departments carried hose bridges which were aluminum ramps that had troughs for the 3's to pass.Vehicles could then be driven slowly over them without damage to the hose.The idea worked well for decades but 2 things happened that changed the system.The first was LDH which is a lot bigger and harder to work with, the second was cars are a lot lower than they were 30 years ago.

As for the firefighter...At best they get their wits rattled or bounced around, at worst...well a sudden loss of water when everything else is also going very wrong...............may result in what many call.............last alarm.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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There should be a federal law against stupid people, but then we would need more prisons.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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There should be a federal law against stupid people, but then we would need more prisons.
Why don't we turn all the prisons into country clubs. This way we could lock all the idiots out. There can't be to many of us smart/commonsense people out there.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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I never knew it was against the law, but, common sense would tell you not to run over a piece of equipment (that does not belong to you) made out of canvas (the hose) against a rough hard surface (black top) with something that weighes 4,000 pounds (a car).

Plus, if it had water in it I would worry breaking the hose or having the water build up like a kink does and busting something.

Then again, I think too much

Common sense would tell you to get out of the area so responders could get in and not to block the streets and access points so people could do their job.

Then again, we have laws for the people without common sense.
 

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