2800 Stall Torque Convertor??
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2800 Stall Torque Convertor??
What are the advantages and disadvantages of having a 2800 stall tc?? Is this even practical for a daily driver?? It would be hooked up to a high performance 351w and e40d.
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Originally Posted by dallas lewis
What are the advantages and disadvantages of having a 2800 stall tc?? Is this even practical for a daily driver?? It would be hooked up to a high performance 351w and e40d.
Advantage. If the motor really is high performance, whatever it is attached to will be fast.
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Thanks, guys. I knew the gas mileage would suffer, but how bad are we talking. Honestly, anything above 10 mpg is suitable for me, I don't do much driving, maybe 30 miles a day.As for towing, it probably won't see much of that either, maybe just to pull a boat or a few jetskis a couple hundred feet.
As for wheeling, well that's a different story. I gotta have my wheeling. I'm assuming the breakage would likely be the result of the transfer case sitting still and having 2,800 RPMs going through it in a split second when the convertor locks up.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but 2,800 stall means the truck won't move until the engine gets to 2,800 RPMs. The reason I ask is because I vaguely remember the convertor when it was in my brother's truck, and it seems like it would lock up a little under 2,800.
Now for the slightly dumb question, is there any way I could control the lockup from inside the truck?? Such as a switch or something??
As for wheeling, well that's a different story. I gotta have my wheeling. I'm assuming the breakage would likely be the result of the transfer case sitting still and having 2,800 RPMs going through it in a split second when the convertor locks up.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but 2,800 stall means the truck won't move until the engine gets to 2,800 RPMs. The reason I ask is because I vaguely remember the convertor when it was in my brother's truck, and it seems like it would lock up a little under 2,800.
Now for the slightly dumb question, is there any way I could control the lockup from inside the truck?? Such as a switch or something??
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I have a 2600 stall in my truck.Did not hurt the mileage much if any!
Your truck will move at low RPMs but it will not lock up till a little before the 2800 your talking about.
I have 4.10 gears and at 75 MPH it's running at 2300 RPMs!
I can drive around all day and keep it under 2000 RPMs and get ok gas mileage.
Your truck will move at low RPMs but it will not lock up till a little before the 2800 your talking about.
I have 4.10 gears and at 75 MPH it's running at 2300 RPMs!
I can drive around all day and keep it under 2000 RPMs and get ok gas mileage.
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Thanks, Phil. I think this part is where lots of people, as well as myself, kind of misunderstand high stall convertors(assuming that I am right about what I'm about to say). They lock up at a higher RPM in 1st gear, but after that they are basically locked all the time right?? just like a regular convertor?? Is your truck 4x4 phil?? If so, any difference or carnage?? And which truck do you have it in?? Just wondering because I don't know how stall would affect the EEC.
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It's in my 03 Screw.I took out 4X4 so I'm 2WD now.
It kinda feels like it locks up in each gear.It's almost like you have 2 gears for every gear. That's when your driving it normally.
When your getting on it it stays locked because the truck is running at a high enough RPM to do so.
It kinda feels like it locks up in each gear.It's almost like you have 2 gears for every gear. That's when your driving it normally.
When your getting on it it stays locked because the truck is running at a high enough RPM to do so.
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you only need that much stall if the motor has a cam that needs it. if the cam is dead to 2500 then a 2800 stall would be ok....but if it's a stock motor you would be wasting a lot of the power band with converter slip. it all has to match....cam converter and gears.
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The power band of the cam starts at 2,500 RPMs. I think the only thing holding me back now is the 4x4. I really gotta know if it'll work together without breaking something all the time. It seems to me like it would work fine, since the convertor locks up progressively, as opposed to all of a sudden. Am I right here?? Also, any other input on MPG??
And just to be sure I've got the right idea here, every time I take off from a stop it's not going to lunge forward, right?? Of course unless I want it to by giving it lots of skinny pedal.
And just to be sure I've got the right idea here, every time I take off from a stop it's not going to lunge forward, right?? Of course unless I want it to by giving it lots of skinny pedal.
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you will be fine...it will act just like any normal converter, it wont slip up to 2800 when you take off at all. Lets say you in a mud hole and your stuck good you slam the gas to the floor it wont slip to 2800 maybe 2000 or so..the only way to get the full stall out of it would be with a tans brake......
If I were you i would call a converter company and talk with someone that knows what you need. do a goggle search.....
the man reason I like to use a higher stall converter is because of the longer duration cams...you put it in gear and it almost stalls.....hate that....I ran a XE274 cam with a 3000 stall street fighter converter and it would idle ok in gear....
I don't understand this thing about braking stuff...were does that come from........
and in a 4X4 like mine I would run a huge oil cooler on the trans and I mean huge.......and I temp gauge......
If I were you i would call a converter company and talk with someone that knows what you need. do a goggle search.....
the man reason I like to use a higher stall converter is because of the longer duration cams...you put it in gear and it almost stalls.....hate that....I ran a XE274 cam with a 3000 stall street fighter converter and it would idle ok in gear....
I don't understand this thing about braking stuff...were does that come from........
and in a 4X4 like mine I would run a huge oil cooler on the trans and I mean huge.......and I temp gauge......
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Originally Posted by dallas lewis
The power band of the cam starts at 2,500 RPMs. I think the only thing holding me back now is the 4x4. I really gotta know if it'll work together without breaking something all the time. It seems to me like it would work fine, since the convertor locks up progressively, as opposed to all of a sudden. Am I right here?? Also, any other input on MPG??
And just to be sure I've got the right idea here, every time I take off from a stop it's not going to lunge forward, right?? Of course unless I want it to by giving it lots of skinny pedal.
And just to be sure I've got the right idea here, every time I take off from a stop it's not going to lunge forward, right?? Of course unless I want it to by giving it lots of skinny pedal.
When I go to the track I can hold the brake and run it up to about 2 to 2300 before it will spin the tires.
The stall converter is used mostly for drag racing. It allows you to get up into your power band so when you launch your motor is making better power and it helps keep you from spinning off the line.
I say if you already have the 2800 go ahead and put it in and see how you like it.
It will not cause you to break anything and you can always get a lower one later if you feel like you need it.
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Originally Posted by HemiEater
and in a 4X4 like mine I would run a huge oil cooler on the trans and I mean huge.......and I temp gauge......
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With an E4OD, I would suggest getting a lock-up instead of a non locking unit. At highways speeds the ECU will lock the converter so it doesn't burn up trans and eat your gas mileage. It operates the same as a the stock unit when it's locked so you'll never know the difference.
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the breakage comes from having the motor really spin up before you get movin good. when your wheeling its best to hit things slow at least at first. also if your picking a cam that starts power at above 2k in a 4wd truck you will hate it. you want torque right off idle otherwise it wont get out of its own way till your going fast. fast breaks stuff unless your building a prerunner desert runner type offroad machine. but you havent mentioned the type of wheeling your doing either.