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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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Murphy's Revenge

Honestly, right now, $$, I could have done without today. My mama always said you gotta keep looking for the silver lining in the cloud though.
So backup two months, I'm having a contribution test, breakout box, KOEO all that happy horseshizzle, and am told at the time that yes, #8 is getting weak, but dont spend money until you gotta. Just run with a tick and be happy.
Today I back out of the driveway and man. First thing in my head is "sounds like all 8 aren't running" SES light, some smoke . . .
I shut it down. Is it just a fluke? Restart. Same thing.

I spoke French for a few moments, called my diesel guy, said hey put the coffee on. So much for getting to work on time. Vibrated my way up there and said tell me what I dont want to know.
He's sitting on top of the engine and I said "just dont tell me that today is the day my injector is done."
He says "ummm. Okaaaaaay." . . . . .
rats.

So the quandry - do you do 1, at 85K for miles, and hope you aren't here again in a few months? Will a new one contribute the same as the old ones? Do you use this as justification to upgrade? (Oh yeah, PMS is still alive, even if its been in remission for a bit)

Talk to my cuz since he works at NAV. Said give me your two cents. He conversed with the engine gurus and said yeah, kind of foolish not to. We always do them in full sets around here.

So. Switching to singles, stage 1's. Back to Jody for some finessing on the chip.
What the heck. Can't take it with you I guess. Trying to find something good out of the day. Figured this is the place to find solace.
Somebody tell me I'll be happy when its all done.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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Since i am kinda of confused on what you asked, ill tell you what I had to do. My #1 injector went out, i replaced it with one reman injector. Truck runs great now, but i do not know how long the other 7 are going to last since i had the gelled fuel and it starved the injectors more than once. So I am moving to some single shots to replace all 8, since the other ones are probably gonna crap out 1 at a time so im replacing them all. If you aint got the money, just replace the one to get you by, look on ebay they are all over the place for less than 200$. If you have enough money just replace them all.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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no askin, just sharin, mostly
or, story of how a good day, aint
makin lemonade out of lifes lemons?
 
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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oh wait, I gotta add
What ME, B R O K NEN G LIS H ?!?!?
naaaaaaa
 
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 03:13 PM
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I am with ya, Amiller came over last night and ran AE on my truck cause I got a vibration at idle, #3 is suspicious, yeah the one right freakin under the ac compressor. its just a tick now so am going to ride it out till it aint spittin. not enough to fail CC test, or buzz test, but enough difference in rotational velocity on #3 to cause a vibe. Oh, well, at least I have been through this before and know what to expect when it does finally give out. Probably going to go ahead and order 1 to keep on hand for the big day.


At least you're adding Vodka to your lemonade and stirring it w/ bigger sticks
 
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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When that happened to me I couldnt afford to replace all 8 but I did it anyway. And figured why not go single shot stage III, turned out cheaper than stock. I'm happy.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 12:45 AM
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Im in the same boat, #8 isnt failing the CC test but it is showing 3-5 on the rotational velocity when the other 7 are at 0-2. I want to get 8 new AC codes but my other injectors "seem" fine. And the slight vibration at idle is driving me crazy, I just cant stand little things like that. The best I can find for 8 new AC injectors is $1600, then ill have to call jody so I can run the signal shots. All said and done im looking at about 2 grand, or $150 for a reman. Ah... decisions decisions.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bdrummonds
I am with ya, Amiller came over last night and ran AE on my truck cause I got a vibration at idle, #3 is suspicious, yeah the one right freakin under the ac compressor. its just a tick now so am going to ride it out till it aint spittin. not enough to fail CC test, or buzz test, but enough difference in rotational velocity on #3 to cause a vibe. Oh, well, at least I have been through this before and know what to expect when it does finally give out. Probably going to go ahead and order 1 to keep on hand for the big day.


At least you're adding Vodka to your lemonade and stirring it w/ bigger sticks
Any injector replacement on the passenger side is a one hour job. A little longer if you don't have air ratchets. All that has to be removed is the CAC tube and the valve cover. AC pump stays on the engine.
Unmounting the MAP to get the hose out of the way is very helpful as well.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by VQ2Fast4U
Im in the same boat, #8 isnt failing the CC test but it is showing 3-5 on the rotational velocity when the other 7 are at 0-2. I want to get 8 new AC codes but my other injectors "seem" fine. And the slight vibration at idle is driving me crazy, I just cant stand little things like that. The best I can find for 8 new AC injectors is $1600, then ill have to call jody so I can run the signal shots. All said and done im looking at about 2 grand, or $150 for a reman. Ah... decisions decisions.
It dosnt take that long to change an injector so if I was in your boat and knew I only needed one I think I would change the one. Save up when your more comfortable and upgrade.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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I would like to add some information to the mix here. I worked on a project with Ford Power Strokes. The injectors were failing and we came up with the idea that the additives in engine oild were cooking out inside the injector because the injectors get so hot. After many tries we came up with an additive that will clean them 86% of the time. It doesn't work 100% of the time so I put money back guarantee on it. But I know from personal experience that it works most of the time. Even when it didn't work it was able to give a clear code on many of the other injectors. We would have trucks that showed 5 injectors bad or needing replaced. After teh additive it would show only one. I would like you guys to try it and post the results bad or good. I am available to answer any questions. My background is in Lubrication Engineering so I am not a mechanic. I was called into the project to figure out what was happening on the lube side of things. You can get it at www.lubricationspecialties.com it is called Hot Shot's Secret. Let me know what you think.
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 10:19 PM
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$50 per bottle aint cheap!
 
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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It's so vague. What engine manufacturer? It doesnt tell what the purpose of the product is, or why it's so damn expensive. And what diesel engine produces 35,000psi injection pressure?

Hot Shots Secret was developed for a major engine manufacturer. Today's diesel engines are much more efficient than those just 10 years old. To increase the efficiency of the burn, diesel engine manufacturers have increased the pressure at the tip of the injector. Older engines are in the 6000 - 8000 psi range where new diesel engines are as high as 35,000 psi. This increase in pressure atomizes the diesel fuel and provides for a better, more efficient burn (more power, less particulates).
 
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 10:33 PM
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Greagin,
I am really sorry about the price. It is 100% additive. Meaning there are no carriers in the additive. Additive manufactures usually put in a filler to dilute the adds. We could not do that with HSS. We needed the whole 64 oz for chemicals. You don't need to use it every oil change. Only us it if you need it and it is guaranteed. If I could find a better way to get the job done I would. We have worked since Nov of 2004 to fix this problem and this is the best solution.

Thanks,
Chris
 
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 10:45 PM
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Strokin,
I was told not to mention the engine manufacturer because I didn't have permission. Other than that it is an open book. I will tell you anything you want to know. The purpose of the product is clean up build in the injector without destroying the viscocity of the oil. It is loaded with detergents and dispersants as well as VI improvers. The original trial caused the engine bearings to go out because it thinned the oil too much. This was developed to adjust for the oil viscocity. It does cost $25 per quart but it works. By the time you pay for blending, bottling and packaging it's nto nearly as lucrative as it seems. But I have 2 years into it so I figured I might as well get it out there for people to try. The companies that have used it have all reordered. I sold it to companies that had fleets of PowerStrokes a year ago as a test. They all loved it. That is why I invested in the website and banner ads.

Chris
 
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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i'd replace all 8 because u'll kick ur self further done the road when the rest crap out
 
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