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Old May 8, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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A pollution free country?My ****...everbeen to LA?Yea, there's your pollution free.And so what if I myself want to remove these "emissions devices"?????It's my decision as aconsumer anyways is it not?I'veseen mid 90's vehicleswith emissions equipment on them that run like absolute crap because things clog up.....Gawd I miss the 70's trucks...everything is so much easier to work on, no electronic bull*****,no emissions......damn lobbyists control everything don't they?If you want a better america......force the manufacturersto have run everything on ethanol or corn....oh wait...there'sno time machine...too bad for england huh?all I had was a simple question about sumthing and everyone gets an atomic wedgie over it.

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Old May 8, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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Imagine LA without pollution control devices...

I guess you aren't up on the current global climate outlook are you? I'm no fanatic, but I try to do what I can to minimize my energy consumption and pollution. Again, I'm certainly not perfect, nor am I a tree hugger. I'm just doing my best to be a responsible citizen and do what I can to not ruin the air for everyone else.
 
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Old May 8, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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Actually the air in the San Fernando Valley is much better than 20 or so years ago , I lived in Burbank when you could not see the hills 2 miles East. Not that I like the emission stuff, but it is now well engineered and is helping somewhat.
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 07:42 AM
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CHILL OUT, the prevailing winds will blow all the smog your way from the west, so
more than ever you need to leave that stuff on, as most are saying there's way's
to INCREASE your performance without eliminating the clean air equipment on your
vehicle, so as an AMERICAN that is your right to brake your local and state and
federal laws, BUT YOU CAN"T SAY MOST DID NOT WARN YOU OF THE CONSEQUENCES.
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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So, let me get this straight.I'f I've already removed BOTH my catalytic converters as well as my stock manifolds and my air pipe running from the engine block/air pump to my y-pipe is disconnected.....Ishould still leave the pump on?Am I not too deep into the flood of acid rain already?You're right, I should just keep that "air pump" mounted up even though the only thing it seems to be doing at this point in time is pumping hot air into the atmosphere(via the disconnected tubing)..........
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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no rip it out if its not doing anything, but you do want to address the sensor issues in some way or just get a haltec system and tell them what you want to monitor and that way you can gt a better electrical system and not have faults from blocking sensors off. It is up to you its your life, just like its my choice to run down children at the bus stop or not. Get that point.... Sure you are going to get a million points of view but its yours that matters to you most. But if I was in your situation and already removed all stuff but the pump i would ditch it. That of coarse does not mean i would say through it all out for no reason, just since your past that part of havinga working system then axe it.
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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Well if you have already gone to the extant of pulling everything off but the pump,
then remove it, or are you looking for some validation,...?
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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no rip it out if its not doing anything, but you do want to address the sensor issues in some way or just get a haltec system and tell them what you want to monitor and that way you can gt a better electrical system and not have faults from blocking sensors off.
What sensors are you talking about??
 
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Old May 10, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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What sensors are you talking about??
IF he still has an egr, then egr position sensor for a start. Other then that you would have to know what he has left to know what needs removed, since i don't know what is in his setup I can't tell you what sensors.
 
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Old May 10, 2007 | 05:00 PM
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Validation?No, I was merely asking opinions on smog delete kits?NOT removing my pump, just the kit to do so.
 
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Old May 10, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by theskyisoutthere
IF he still has an egr, then egr position sensor for a start. Other then that you would have to know what he has left to know what needs removed, since i don't know what is in his setup I can't tell you what sensors.
What other sensor would be removed or unplugged while getting rid of smog gear??
 
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Old May 10, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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no other sensor just the EGR sensor....the other parts are the crossover tube in the back of the motor and the hot air tube that ran to the EGR sensor....a couple of vacuum lines need to be removed then capped and if your model has the 2 vacuum hoses on the throttle body all you got to do is just remove them and take one hose and jump from one to the other and youll be set...its not hard...I just did a write up on a poor mans fix for the EGR sensor if you cant find a sim
 
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Old May 10, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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Just something to be aware of. I'm not going to spew environment or legal stuff or anthing. The thing you need to be aware of is that the ECM expects this stuff to be on the truck. When you take stuff off, you can end up really confusing the computer and you may end up with a truck that dosen't run or perform as well as it used to with the smog stuff on. Pulling this stuff off is kind of old school, maybe a reasonable idea on a 1975 vehicle, but not so good on anything that has a computer.

In fact, my last post is drivability issues here. I think that one of the things that's causing my problems is the fact that the guy that had the truck before me monkeyd with a lot of the emission controls on my truck. Honestly, just for drivability's sake and for your own future troubleshooting, you'd probobly be doing yourself a favor by just leaving your emission control equipment on the truck. Just my $0.02. Hope this helps ya make a decision.
 
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Old May 11, 2007 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by sconut1
Just something to be aware of. I'm not going to spew environment or legal stuff or anthing. The thing you need to be aware of is that the ECM expects this stuff to be on the truck. When you take stuff off, you can end up really confusing the computer and you may end up with a truck that dosen't run or perform as well as it used to with the smog stuff on. Pulling this stuff off is kind of old school, maybe a reasonable idea on a 1975 vehicle, but not so good on anything that has a computer.
Not true.

The ONLY thing that has to be in hooked up regarding emissions equipment is the egr valve position sensor. If the valve is removed, there must be a resistor installed so that the computor knows that no egr is flowing. Other than that, you can do what ever you want and drivability/dependability will not be affected. This is the case for anything with an EEC-IV...so we are talking up through 1995.
 
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Old May 11, 2007 | 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by spankydxm
no other sensor just the EGR sensor....the other parts are the crossover tube in the back of the motor and the hot air tube that ran to the EGR sensor....a couple of vacuum lines need to be removed then capped and if your model has the 2 vacuum hoses on the throttle body all you got to do is just remove them and take one hose and jump from one to the other and youll be set...its not hard...I just did a write up on a poor mans fix for the EGR sensor if you cant find a sim
Yes, I know. I was just asking to see what he was getting at with this..."IF he still has an egr, then egr position sensor for a start. Other then that you would have to know what he has left to know what needs removed, since i don't know what is in his setup I can't tell you what sensors." I looked like he was saying more sensors would be involved.
 
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