Well, I doubt that ANY states out there enforce these laws. I have done alot of driving and I have NEVER been checked like that nor do I know anyone that has ever been checked. There is enough crime out there and enough budget issues present to keep any state in the USA from being able to inspect like this. The only time these laws get enforced, as far as I have seen, is when someone goes to register their rig. And that consists of a exhaust gas analysis and a vin inspection. They used to use dynos while doing the gas analysis, but not any more...too much upkeep and not enough older rigs on the road. And if the rig is OBD2 the all they do is scan for codes (This is in Oregon btw) and check the vin. Sure removing smog gear is illegal, but man power is limited enough and budgets are tight enough to where enforcement is virtually non-existant....better things out there to enforce. On top of that, there arn't that many people out there doing this. The 80s and early 90s truck crowd really isn't that big.

 

HA HA HA......Yet another reason why the south seceded.....I live in Florida...do I have emissions tests and standards?Used to......guess they gave up(gotta love ur old yankee people for sumthin) guess they think most of the population is 50 or older....hmmmmm....can ya'll count that high?Hell, all I asked was a simple question and it turnedto be a friggin argument.....and YESthat Gen Ilightning IS street legal even when it is running race fuel.to my redneck self....why have something that drags on my engine?(ie smog pump)it just steals power right?evenif it IS just a minimal amout of power.....the slightest things make a difference.......and if it doesn't give me a "seat of your pants" feel, so what?That damn waste of good steel if draggin my front end down.....what is it racers like?Oh yea...less drag less weight.(of course the constant of truck parts in the bed of it don't help)And just to tick off some yankees with their regulated emissions....I have HEADERS and STRAIGHT PIPES......geesh......if this is the way ford people act in other states to a simple question of a smog pump delete kit...I'd rather deal with the old folks.Thanks for the criticism....creative or not.

 

Washington state check them and enforces them. If you go to a required inspection station for emissions check to renew your tabs, they will cite you for removing any emissions equipment as well as fail you rendering you unable to renew your tabs.

 

Ohio, Penn, Mich, and IN all still do it. I saw the ohio guys out just a few weeks ago. Pennsylvania requires a complete inspection at registration, indiana does road sides peridically, and michigan does too. They're not likely to stop a tourist (out of state plates) but those with in-state plates will get stopped at random and checked. They usually setup a roadside checkpoint with two troopers to do it.

 

It's not the northeners that have any problems, not even the southerners, it's all the
poeple in all the states that circumvent the system trying to get away with something they know is wrong. So to you individules the bigger the ticket you get the better.
In the long run it causes the law abiding citizens to have pay for your foolishness. And
for what, 1 extra miniscule horsepower, same amount you'll get for driving naked.

 

It's not just about 1hp...I am sure you know that but you don't want to bring it up though. By getting rid of the air pump and everything else that is illegal to remove (cats, EGR, PCV, Evap) you get a more reliable system because there are less components to fail and cause problems, cleaner carbon free intake manifold and plenum , less vacuum leaks because there are less vacuum lines to leak, less engine clutter which makes the vehicle easier to work on and blah blah blah.

There are all kinds of things that are illegal that I am sure you and I do all the time and those are the laws that are in the books, but don't really get much attention.

 

For Pennsylvania residents that have their vehicles registered in certain counties they are also checked yearly in conjunction with the required safety inspection. In order to pass the safety inspection the emissions inspection must be done first.No emissions sticker = no safety inspection sticker. Expired stickers = big fine.

 

No one is COMPLETELY and utterly law abiding...everyone breaks rules/laws...even if they were written a hunnerdyears ago...it's still a law.....if you don't break the rulesfrom time to time.....this country would become something from soilent green...everyone basically the samedoing as they're told......me?I wanna be different with how I set up my truck.....and that's my business....Now, I absolutely love my country...even though the government has their fingers in every little piece of the pie.....Hell, if you can show me some good boost in power without going into anything internal......I'd be glad to hear it...that is , of course, besides exhaust, the external intake and certain body parts and drop in pieces(ie K&N filters).....I'vedone very little to my truck and it now actually goes somewhere....it even got a boost in power when I did the first tune up it's ever had.....if you want to check your emissions and make sure you're clean.....you should be required to do a tune up every six months, shouldn't you?you're vehiclewill run more efficientlynow won't it?same goesforletting it breathe.....exhaust and intake.The government and electronics are alike, you get them in alot of places and it makes things more difficult............Oh yea, I'd drive naked except I don't want certain parts of me to stick to the leather......

 

flareside_thunder, I am not repeat not 100% law abiding.I do bend/break the law time to time.I don't agree with a lot of what government has to say I do however have to make a living.I happen to make mine repairing trucks.I can repeat Pa's legal drool because I'm a licensed PA inspection mechanic.The license isn't that hard to get the hard part at times is keeping it.The license makes me a lot more employable than a mechanic who doesn't have one.I can get work without it but I'd take a $5 to $7 an hour cut in pay.If I get caught taking the emission stuff off I lose the license for good plus a 6 figure fine.I can deal with the loss of a few horsepower a heck of a lot easier than loss of my house due to foreclosure or jail time for non support.

 

...more pollution in the air for the rest of us to breathe, plus more compounding the problems for our children, their children, etc....

Sounds lazy and selfish to me, but what do I know? I'm just as guilty though, cause I sure as hell ain't perfect.

 

Actually, smog pumps on new vehicles serve only to speed the warm up of the cat, they are on for about 2-3 minutes then the magnetic clutch releases and they just go along for the ride.

 

you are talking about the air pump right? Well when i bought my pickup the guy that owned it before me took the pulley off the air pump and a put a shorter belt on it. Just be curious i went and spent $5 on a pulley and $30 on a longer belt (which i needed anyways) hooked it all back up. THen the air check valve broke. replaced it for about $15. then a section of hose came undone 1 zip tie fixed that. Now my pickup runs better, smoother, and holds more hills in OD then before and i am getting about 2MPG better.

 

What truck was this? The one in your sig? The computor could care less wether the air pump system is hooked up so I find what you are saying hard to believe.

 

I see what you are saying and I have thought about this before. But, the emissions that a properly running well tuned efi 302 puts out isn't that bad at all.

 

I guess the whole issue is really off tack, People will battle back and forth about pollution controls, you know i am happy with mine when it works, BUT... If my system fails and I can't get the parts cheap then its out the window. Not to be mean but I live in an emissions free county and the lack of parts for anything here would make me consider removing it. But as for the cost effectiveness of it, its for the owner to determine, if your off road racing it then yes by all means (remove the failure points) If its a daily driver probably not worth it. Plus if your system is working why change it, wait till it breaks (it will). Also you can make all the parts and if you can't you can find fittings in the store to cap off stuff. As far as the computer you can make your own circuit with some radio shack parts. Just probe your working system while it functions through all the cycles and record the voltages, impedances and resistances then either work on your circuits or have a savvy buddy do it. I had a faulty egr position sensor for a while back and just removed its operation with parts from RadioShack and such (of course I found one later at the junk yard for 1.00 so I replaced it.) Bottom Line in my opinion they aren’t worth it unless you don't understand electronics.