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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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Ford drops international, going in-house.

A ford spokesmen said today, the relationship between the two has soured. Ford, a company with a long diesel legacy, is already developing it's own replacement diesel, a 6.7L V8 for the 2010 model year super duty. Ford originally intended to use international's 4.5L V6 "baby power stroke" in the F-150, and has since dropped that plan for an in-house 4.4L diesel.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 08:00 AM
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Didn't ford use to build thier own diesels back in the 80's? I don't remember for sure, but it seems to me like they did.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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I think the first ford truck with a diesel was the 6.9 international, then 7.3 idi, 7.3 psd, etc.. They may have built their own for the larger trucks? I'm not really sure..

I can't wait to hear some specs on this 6.7, hopefully CGI and DOHC.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 09:33 AM
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The first one in the pickup was International. Who made the diesel for the Lynx and 84 ranger?
 
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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I saw a 1994 Ford L8000 garbage truck that had a Ford 7.8 in it. The engine was made in Brazil, and the rest of the truck was made in Louisville, Ky. The body was of course a McNeilus. The 7.8 would run circles around the 8.3 cummins in the rest of the trucks I worked on, and got better fuel mileage. Parts however were difficult to get and quite expensive too if I remember correctly. The 7.8 would not pass emission standards in the United States, at least that's what I was told. That's why you didn't see many of them in the U.S. Over all though, it was a better engine than the cummins 8.3.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 1979 Ford
The first one in the pickup was International. Who made the diesel for the Lynx and 84 ranger?
1983/84 2.2 diesel: Toyo Kogyo (Mazda)

1985/87 2.3 diesel: Brazil (that's all the parts book says)
 
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 1979 Ford
The first one in the pickup was International. Who made the diesel for the Lynx and 84 ranger?

Mazda????


I KNOW the turbo diesel in the Mark VII was a BMW.
 

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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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Didn't Ford stick Isuzu diesels in their trucks as an experiment? Someone told me this once. I could never verify it though.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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Not aware of an Isuzu diesels in Fords. GM partially owns Isuzu. Toyota recently took over a former Isuzu plant in Indiana to build Camry's. I forget exactly what the transaction is, but I think Toyota bought out GM's interest in Isuzu. Isuzu SUV/pickup sales in the US recently have been slim and none.
 

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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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The Mazda would make sense, since they had a pretty strong partnership for a while, maybe still. Still have to laugh about the Navajo Mazda put out, it was pure Ford Explorer, right down to the oval on the grill, just didn't have the Ford emblem in it. Had Powered by Ford right on the valve cover though... This was early 90's. The Escorts later were essentially Mazda build, the Probe is well known to be Mazda build. The Courier was another example of Mazda rebadged as Ford.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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Mazda Navajo was 1991 2 door. Ford sold more 1958 Edsels in a month than Navajo's in a year. To say it was a bust is an understatement.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/1991-to-1994-mazda-navajo.htm
Built 91-94... don't give sales numbers, don't think they were quite that low, but never can tell. I see a few around once in a while...
 
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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The little mazda escape seems to be doing well, I see plenty of those on the road, the tribute or whatever there called.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 11:07 PM
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Dodge used Mitsu diesels for a year or two in the rams, and International used Nissan diesels in the Scouts, and Ford used Mazda small diesels in the Escort and Ranger, but Ford has only used International diesels in their full-size pickups. In the L series trucks, they did have their own engines. The most common was the inline six 401cid "170" series turbodiesel.
I want so bad to throw one of those in my 69 F250, maybe with a Clark 5speed behind it.......
 
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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They better do their homework. If that engine turns out to be a bust/joke- they will lose the market.
 
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