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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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9.3l Psd 450???

hey guys, i know how insane this sounds which is exactly why i came here to ask you about this... well here it goes....
me and my dad were talking about fast cars, and i brought up a viper and how now it's like a 8.4l v-10, and how even my f350 isn't that big, and then he just comes out of nowhere claiming that his friend heard from some guy that works at ford that in the very near future (like i mean VERY NEAR, couple weeks or so) ford is going to take a 9.3l engine from one of their international trucks and throw it in a f450 dually, and he claims the only option for this engine is an f450 CC long box dually, now before i get everyone yellin at me, i don't even know if a 9.3l diesel exists, let alone a psd, if anyone has heard ANYTHING AT ALL about this, please reply! he said that if it's true he's going to order one tomorrow haha i mean this sounds absolutly stupid i know, and why wouldn't ford tell anyone about this?? i was interrogating him for about 2 hours about this cause i just couldn't seem to understand how this would ever be possible, especially since ford probably doesn't even have money to put into making a frame to support a beast like that...
 
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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You know how much a 9.3L motor would weigh that was a retrofit into a f450. Someone is yanking your chain hardcore.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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haha exactly why i thought that this did not make any sense at all! unless he heard wrong and he said 7.3??? that would be great but i doubt it, even though i have heard rumors of some new plans for a 7.3 in the works?? and i don't know what size engines run in the tractor trailers, anyone know?
 
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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most tractor trailers run between 10L 285 horse all the way up to 15L 600 + horse some are even twin turbo.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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9.3L in a F-450, not going to happen. Even though CAT does make the C9, which is 9.3L. It is almost 5ft long, over 3.5ft wide, a little over 3ft tall and weighs in at 1650# dry. This is considered a OTR engine. But CAT does also make 12.5L and 15.2L versions.

As for new engines in the works. The latest I have heard/read was the next Super Duty engine would be built in-hose and it will be a V8 in the 6-7L range. But do not expect this before 2010.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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go here- http://www.nav-international.com/***...NGLE.pdf?src=1


The 9.3l displacement is the dt570 from- you geussed it- NAVISTAR.

Not gonna happen-too much weight, too large for the engine compartment, and then you have to add the problems between the two companys.

also here- http://ohe.cat.com/cda/layout?m=85521&x=7

The cat c9- I WISH!!!!!!!!

So- what do you think????????
 
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 09:50 AM
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haha yeah i was gonna say that it has to weigh a lot and take up HUGE amounts of room, i knew it was impossible but you know, my dad's stubborn lol
 
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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Actually Navistar made the 9.0L which was the gas converted MT-545 it was a fuel chewer and around 180 HP sounded nice though. Was the best cold starting diesel I have ever encountered. It was a V8 and really was not much bigger than the 7.3L and about 1550 pounds well with in the limits of the 5000 lb capicity front end of a F-450.
 
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They arnt really going higher on the hp/Tq numbers are they? the C9 with 285 to 350HP and 890-1350Lb-FT but at work we got 12 yearold L10 cummins running the same exact numbers....must be fuel economy changes? Our L10's get around 2-4 MPG running max vehilce weight...wonder what them C9's are getting.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 10:07 PM
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The thing about the med./hev. industry is that they keep power about the same, they only change engine designs for emissions and fuel economy. In this industry it's about torque not hp. They build for torque and then get their speed through gearing.

One of the things I love about eaton fuller- you can have two identical trannys and the internal gears will not interchange if there is a build date difference in them. they constantly change ratios in the gears to match different engines power bands.
 
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