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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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Yes...I meant that the "output" shaft of and early Bronco c-4 is different from a regular street version 2WD transmission....IE if you get a C-4 post 1970 the transmission would have to be disassembled fully, an output shaft fron a '73-77' Bronco obtained, and then installed. Not really that bad on a junkyard C-4 because they usually need to be rebuilt anyway. Also look for a C-4 with a "H" servo...
 
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Maurer
Yes...I meant that the "output" shaft of and early Bronco c-4 is different from a regular street version 2WD transmission....IE if you get a C-4 post 1970 the transmission would have to be disassembled fully, an output shaft fron a '73-77' Bronco obtained, and then installed. Not really that bad on a junkyard C-4 because they usually need to be rebuilt anyway. Also look for a C-4 with a "H" servo...
So then what I make out of this message is that I should look for a 1970 or newer transmission with an "H" servo? or does the year really matter that much sense I wouldn't even consider installing it without rebuilding it first.

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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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Hi,
Well you'll need a few things..

If you can get an Early Bronco trans, this would be best...

http://www.tomsbroncoparts.com/product.php?id=1000

Or if you get a 2WD car trans get a '70 and later, they have a 26 tooth input shaft spline count, they use a 26 spline, 10.5 " bolt circle (50441 - Ford - Tork Master 2400 for Ford ’70-’82 C4 (step case) 10.5” bolt circle, 26 spline, 1.375 crank pilot) torque converter..

http://www.bmracing.com/index.php?id...ubcat=6&pid=51

If you get a car C4 you'll also need the intermediate housing and the tranny output shaft.

http://broncograveyard.com/bronco/i-...4_swap_kit.htm

Also you'll need a trans cooler because your radiator is for a manual and doesn't have trans cooling line hook-ups.

http://broncograveyard.com/bronco/i-...on_towing_.htm

You'll also need an Automatic trans spacer plate (one that goes between the engine and flexplate. (A junkyard part or you'll have to search the bronco sites.)

Also you'll need a starter for an Early Bronco. The manual ones have a different "snout" near the bendix, and won't bolt all the way in.

You'll also need an automatic tranny inspection/torque converter bolt access cover plate.

http://www.tomsbroncoparts.com/product.php?id=1261

Also you'll need a kickdown rod, and an adapter to attach it to your carb.

http://www.tomsbroncoparts.com/product.php?id=41

Not to mention some type of floor shifter.

http://www.bmracing.com/index.php?id...ubcat=1&pid=10

And don't forget the new flexplate. (I think I used this one...Very year dependent...50246 - Ford - Small block C4 with 157 tooth ring gear, 10.5" b.c. (for internally balanced engines). Also the correct attaching bolts.

http://www.bmracing.com/index.php?id...at=7&subcat=20

All I can think of right now. Keep us updated...

BRonco BRuce

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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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Oh yes...

When I rebuilt mine the tranny guy said a C4 with a "H" servo was one of the strongest servos...

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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 09:43 PM
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Tom's seems to have the best "all in one " package...

http://www.tomsbroncoparts.com/product.php?id=1000

Even though they give you just a core which would have to be rebuilt, I did it myself several times with this very specific, manual included, step by step B&M kit. (21045 - Ford - Ford C-6 '68-'91 Racing Overhaul Kit)

http://www.bmracing.com/index.php?id...s&sid=3&cat=14

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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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Bruce,

Thanks for the input and links, I knew of all the stuff needed but your message sure sheds some light on the subject and the links will help also.

Thanks again
Tim
 
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