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when i bought my truck it had a K&N on it with a K&N box..my turbo wheel is a little duted but not bad..i through the K&N in the dumpster..(nobody wanted it even for free) and i put on a AFE stage2...
I saw a post the other day and they said not to use K/N filters.... just curiouse of why..... One was in my truck when I bought it . Should I get something else ?
I have 243,500 miles on my K&N without a single issue with the filter!! You just have to be smarter then Dirt I Guess!!
I have 243,500 miles on my K&N without a single issue with the filter!! You just have to be smarter then Dirt I Guess!!
The best quote about this I've ever heard was from an old man who installed air conditioners his whole life:
"I never understood why anyone would want to buy a filter that only works when it's dirty. Does it make sense to filter dirt with dirt?"
The K&N filter is too pourous for our trucks. The PSD engine sucks in a lot of air, and the K&N filter simply lets in too much dirt. Over time this dirt can do horrible things.
I've heard the same thing. I wonder how much time it takes to screw something up. I've got 224,000 miles on my 02 with no problems yet.
I know the drop in filters are bad, but aren't alot of them. I know there are others on this site that are running K&N and have had no problems as well.
a couple thousand diesel owners cant be wrong
Not saying anyone is right or wrong but out of these couple thousand how many have actually ran K&N and have experienced problems?
I have been considering changing my intake for 2 reasons 1) my FIPK intake tube is made of plastic I want aluminum tubing 2) I want oiless filter. None of these reasons are because I have problems with it performance wise.
I do like how this topic gets a good discussion going
Here is why I'll never run any K&N on my truck:
That was a very close friend -- it *WAS* the cone style, not the drop in. Notice the figer swipe through the dusted intake. My 6637 is staying on my truck.
And here's some proof of what a freshly serviced K&N cone "Aircharger" did to my new turbo compressor wheel in just 300 miles! Click for full size image That wheel was on a new rebuilt turbo, driven for 300 miles, and pulled to install a WW to correct surge, and the pitting was discovered that way, and I trashed the K&N and installed an AIS.
YEAH.... I took the K&N off about 3 months ago. When I removed the cone filter I had dirt inside the intake tube. I took the tube off and thankfully none went any further. I use the 6637 now but still have the K&N intake tube. So I used to be a K&N supporter and like a few of my old posts show I wanted proof that K&N doesnt filter well enough for our trucks. Well I got the proof and it was on my truck. No K&N ever again.
so you guys are saying that i wasted my money buying that k&n i'm going to drive it so that i get about 500 miles on the filter then pll it and see what is in there then i'll make my decision...... The best experience is first hand experience it's not that i dont believe you guys i just want to see it for myself
so you guys are saying that i wasted my money buying that k&n i'm going to drive it so that i get about 500 miles on the filter then pll it and see what is in there then i'll make my decision...... The best experience is first hand experience it's not that i dont believe you guys i just want to see it for myself
save your self some down time and aggravation ..get a wicked wheel now..your going to need it in the near future..
so you guys are saying that i wasted my money buying that k&n i'm going to drive it so that i get about 500 miles on the filter then pll it and see what is in there then i'll make my decision...... The best experience is first hand experience it's not that i dont believe you guys i just want to see it for myself
Check this thread https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/633517-what-is-turbo-surge-2.html posts #16 & 17, and note that "sub-micronic particles do take a toll on the wheel over time" implies you won't necessarily see the damage being done in 500 miles. Mine showed up in 300 mi because it was all towing at 10-12 psi boost across a dusty stretch of CA.
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