Sub-Zero Temperatures
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Sub-Zero Temperatures
Well around here lately its been getting to -17 degrees at night and only warms up to like 10 degrees in the day. Ive been talking to alot of diesel guys around here as well as my fuel provider since I gelled up the other day. (Using Power Service) it seems alot of people have been gelling up using Power Service when it gets to be this cold. So heres what my Fuel provider highly recemended. Its called BG All Weather DFC. I have never heard of it before but its suppose to be awsome stuff when it comes to anit-gelling. Hes personally never gelled up using it, and has gelled up on power service. Im now running it and thought I would share it with any of you in the bitter cold. Heres there website to check it out. http://www.bgprod.com/products/diesel.html
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You were using the power service in the white bottles right? The stuff in the gray bottles doesn't do much for jelling as it is a cetane booster mainly. When I lived in NYS a friend needed to get diesel tractor out of a snow drift at around -20 degrees and a half a gallon of service in the white bottle and fifteen minutes and we had it running and yes the lines were full of jelled fuel when we started.
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I am new to cold weather diesel operation. This morning when i got up it was -25. I had power service in the white bottles in it and it still gelled up. what is my best corse of action now? how do i get it up and running?
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Power Service 911. It is the best product I have seen for gelled up trucks. We use it as required. I work at a trucking company with 100+ tractors and 200+ container heater units. We use Howes in the trucks and Kleen Flow anti gel in the heaters. We have done tests at -35'C with Howes, Power Service (white) and Kleen Flow. Power service was the only one that gelled when mixed with fuel and on its own. Howes and Kleen Flow were both fine.
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Originally Posted by wpgf250
Power Service 911. It is the best product I have seen for gelled up trucks. We use it as required. I work at a trucking company with 100+ tractors and 200+ container heater units. We use Howes in the trucks and Kleen Flow anti gel in the heaters. We have done tests at -35'C with Howes, Power Service (white) and Kleen Flow. Power service was the only one that gelled when mixed with fuel and on its own. Howes and Kleen Flow were both fine.
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Powerservice 911 (red bottle) should only be used in an emergency on the 6.0 due to having alcohol in it. It will un-gel anything in short order, to get you out of a bind, but it is not for regular use.
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my opinion is they should have never removed the fuel heater. but what do i know, i just fix 'em.
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When mixed according to each manufacture's instructions does Howes work better than Power Service in the white bottle???
I have used both and have found them to work equally well... but for what ever reason I use PS in the grey bottle in spring, summer and fall and white bottle for winter. I did buy some Howes due to be on sale and really cheap.... but in ultra cold weather does Howes work better?????
Not sure if this is a loaded question, but does anyone have any proof or info as do the chemical make-up of why one may work better or not???
If one is better at anti-gelling is this due to greater usage of accetone or karosen (sp)... which too much is not a good thing!!!!!
I have used both and have found them to work equally well... but for what ever reason I use PS in the grey bottle in spring, summer and fall and white bottle for winter. I did buy some Howes due to be on sale and really cheap.... but in ultra cold weather does Howes work better?????
Not sure if this is a loaded question, but does anyone have any proof or info as do the chemical make-up of why one may work better or not???
If one is better at anti-gelling is this due to greater usage of accetone or karosen (sp)... which too much is not a good thing!!!!!
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I dont think your fuel service provider has been providing you with an adequate product. Up here where 10F is a pretty nice winter day we dont see gel ups at that temp because our fuel comes properly blended at the refinery. I run Howes in the winter all the time for lubrication and the anti-gel, my summer additive would probably hinder me in the winter. if I didnt use an additive like alot of the public doesnt, I dont think we would need anti-gel until around -30 C. WPGJ250 would probably have a better idea of what our untreated fuel gels at.
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I use the PS product White and just drove back from WI ans had not issue, but it never dropped below 0F
BG products are made here in Wichita and the their gas prducts kick A$$ I have not heard of the diesel line. I have friend who works there and I will ask about it.
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BG products are made here in Wichita and the their gas prducts kick A$$ I have not heard of the diesel line. I have friend who works there and I will ask about it.
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Well all I know is the powerservice (white bottle) sucks in the sub sero temps. Weve got proof above and I could get tons and tons of people to say the same. I wont use it again, bye bye powerservice. Im just trying to warn some people who use it, it doesnt work as intended!!!!!!!!! It was -18 below last night and my truck didnt gell up with BG all weather , all though I got to see lots of other trucks on road gelled up, probly using powerservice.... its -10 and dropping right now so well see what happens in the morning. And to answer another above question, My area is one the most diesel fuel consuming areas in the US right now ( major oil and gas drilling boom going on) so im pretty sure my area is getting the right fuel, I bet 50% of the vehicles on the road around here are diesels. Plus were right on I-80 so we get all the trucks. Im just sharing my (real world) experiece with you guys, I dont care what the labels say, I'll be beleive what I see.... and ya I havnt heard much bad about howes, alot of people around here use it with good effects, sorry if I sound uptight, but im a little ticked off that I gelled up using the so-called GREAT POWERSERVICE that Ive wasted alot of money on............ Now maybe Ill get to pay for some injectors I dry fired thanks to them. and ya my tank is always full in the winter............
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Originally Posted by mrxlh
Powerservice 911 (red bottle) should only be used in an emergency on the 6.0 due to having alcohol in it. It will un-gel anything in short order, to get you out of a bind, but it is not for regular use.
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Its for a diesel, It even has a sticker on the back that reads "This diesel fuel additive complies with the federal low sulfur content requirments for use in diesel motot vehicles and nonroad engines." It claims its for use in all engines.
Edit: Its called Iso-Heet. I just happen to have a bottle, I use it in a process for making my bio.
Edit: Its called Iso-Heet. I just happen to have a bottle, I use it in a process for making my bio.
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