I would use it only in an emergency if I needed to get ungelled in a hurry.

 

I use Stanadyne Perf. Formula pretty much year round (maybe some PS in the summer if I'm out) and so far never a fuel issue. I buy it online in a 12 pint case; works out to a little less than $2.50 per tank. BG makes pretty good products I know as well, just I've never tried their diesel additive.

Mark

 

Well if all this additive stuff isn't working why not go back to the old standby before there were additives and put in kerosene in your diesel fuel. Ratio depends on how cold it is from what your saying seems that it should be 80%kerosene to 20% diesel for lubracation of the engine but if you have an 06 or older trucks can run on type 1 diesel in the winter your mileage will drop but that is part of winter driving with a diesel.
I have used type D1 in the winter in my small diesel tractor and never had issues with my tractor that sat outside no matter the weather and yes I did have a block heater but it just ran better in the winter with D1 fuel.
just my 2 cents

 

wow, this BG stuff might be pretty good, I just started my truck and its only warmed up to -7 right now, no spitting and sputtering on start up likes its been doing the past couple days

 

Just last evening, I was at my sisters birthday party, and talking with some other guys there, who also have diesel trucks, ( 2- Duramax's, 1- Cummins, 3- Powerstrokes 6.0l's), all of them were cutting there fuel with kerosene and swore by it....half of them never heard of Power Service,... So is it safe to say that Kerosene can be used in our 6.0l's with no adverse affects on the engine??? apparently they are having no issues...

 

Well Kero is great for anti-gel, cleaning and is a fuel in itself, I think its lubrication properties are probably pretty poor. I would bet those guys are due for some injector issues down the road. Try some Howes, I'll give you the link to thier site:

http://www.howeslube.com/products/index.php/category/10

I run the stuff at the top of the page and it's pretty economical. 1.9L cost me $20 or 30 Cdn, I cant remember which, and it treats 800L (212 U.S. Gal) at the winter ratio.

 

Found the PS 911 at an auto parts store, added it to my tank, let it idle for a little while. Just got back from a drive and all seems well. I also have fresh fuel filters in it. 3F is our low here today.

 

Unless you've got an existing problem you DO NOT want to run the PS 911; its only for emergency situations. Its got alcohol which can carry water through your fuel system to your injectors.

Mark

 

Just curious, how much Powerservice (white bottle) do you use per gallon or per tank full (how big is your tank)?? Do you use the entire white bottle (32oz) or less???

 

Would not use... and it states not to do so in the manual. Use a quality fuel additive made just for diesels (no alcohol) and get the enefits of the lubricity additives and other cleaners that are in these additives... and not in Kerosene.

What people and truckers used to do years back is no longer valid with these new highly-tuned motors and systems!!!!! Just because they have not had a "short-term" problem or issue, does not make it right or correct!!

If I was out in the mountsains or the "boonies" and needed to get going again... I would use this technique in order to get going and to the next town for service, fill-up or to buy a name-brand quality additive... regular use... no way.

 

I have a short bed, so its the 28 gallon, but I always get more than that in there. Im guessing I usually have close to a whole bottle in there, dont know exact amount since I always keep my tank above half. just roughly estimate. I know I always have plenty in there since the bottles I use treat 100 gallons. So far this BG is working awesome, Im gonna try some of there other deisel products as well.

 

Glad to hear you have found something that meets your needs.

I just was curious with my question above if you were using enough PS anti-gel to properly get you the protection you need... or think you had? Their website states protects to -40 and this is with #1D fuel... and then they go on to state that it lowers the cloud point by "as much as 36F... so if the cloud point of diesel is 20F (or so).. then you would be protected to -16F which is really pushing the envelope of the temps you are in.

I actually double treat when it is ultra-cold and you have to be aware of any water that maybe in your system too...

Just something to think about and if you need to pour the entire 32oz per tank in the next time, if you ever us PS again.

Buy hey... if BG's is working... I guess no reason to change... when you find something that works... it is best to stick with it.

 

beech
Just wondering if you know how they make winter grade type 2 diesel? It was always type 2 diesel cut with kerosene and they were still doing it last winter so if the new fuel has changed that then they are doing something different.

 

No idea as I am not an oil industry chemist.

My local truck stop adds in Powerservice as needed per the ambiant temperature and adds it upon delivery of the tanker. In my area (Kansas City) they do not sell "winterized fuel" all the time, but only when the temps get and saty below a certain temperature. Since different refiners and stations do different things, much is added upon delivery (whatever brand they use, but my local Quik-Trip Truck stop uses PowerService).

Unless you can point me to a weblink or PDF files showing such, I do not believe that this is the case anymore (old way to thin out #1D). Too add Kerosene to fuel would change the ASTM standard for lubricity, sulfur and BTU's to something different than what is now mandated. This is why "blending of #1D and #2D is important and why in my area they use additives instead of "blending" or adding of Kerosene.

Refiners are not going to make diesel fuel to one spec, only to have it thrown off by the addition of high amounts of Kerosene... and not every station in a refiners market area may need "winterized fuel"???

So I will ask you the same question... what are they doing and I mean today... not what you may think or know from years past? Point me to weblinks or info where I can learn and study this information if I am indeed wrong... at which point I owe you an appology.

Thanks,

 

I thought #1 diesel had alot of kerosene in it?