F 150 Deisel
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From what I heard, your still going to have limitations of a 1/2 ton pickup. Even though the engine will be a small block diesel, your still going to have the tow limitations of the 1/2 ton, although I'm sure there are going to be some people that think because the have a diesel in their 150 that they can haul anything that a dually w/ a diesel engine can. The only real benefit that I can see, based on the specs I've read about(now they could change, but based on my last viewing of them), is that with a lighter truck and the diesel engine your going to see a better mpg then you do with the 5.4 engine.
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I saw a few months back some Range Rovers with the new 3.6 V8 diesel, that Ford was using for testing. As well they were setting up 2 Explorer test mules that were going to get the same V8 Diesel. I was told it would be a variation of the 3.6L upped to 4.4L that could be used in the Explorer, Expedition, and F-150, if everything goes well. As to when, MY09 or MY10 was what I was told too.
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I do not believe this is a IH engine, I believe it is a in house Range Rover/Ford diesel. I could be wrong, but it did not look like a IH. The new engine is based on the out going 2.7L V-6 diesel that has been available in Europe. The 3.6L is available in Europe already, here is a link.
http://www.landrover.com/gb/en/Vehic...nfoBlockLink_7
Current 3.6L V-8 is pretty impressive as is, can't imagine a 4.4L
3.6L TDV8 Twin Turbo
268HP @ 4,000
472 ft/lb @ 2000
http://www.landrover.com/gb/en/Vehic...nfoBlockLink_7
Current 3.6L V-8 is pretty impressive as is, can't imagine a 4.4L
3.6L TDV8 Twin Turbo
268HP @ 4,000
472 ft/lb @ 2000
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Originally Posted by BowTieHatr
from what i understood is was not international. it was either landrover or volvo powered.
The proposed 4.4L version would be built in Britain and shipped to the US. They have the capabilities of providing the US with about 100,000 units per year.
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I really don't want to start any arguments, but I've been waiting for quite awhile for the 1/2 ton diesel, and I'll only get one if the engine comes from Europe. I don't haul huge trailers. I don't even haul big trailers. I want a diesel for the improved mileage and because it will outlast any gas motor made. I've been driving my bronco for 11 years now, so longevity is definitely a concern of mine. I've driven several Ford/Puegot diesels while stationed in Italy and I never had a complaint with any of them. I understand that no 1/2 ton diesel is going to get 35 miles to the gallon or tow 20,000 lbs, but again, I don't need either of those.
I agree that no one around the world makes better heavy duty diesels than IH, Cummins and Cat. I just don't have a use for one.
I agree that no one around the world makes better heavy duty diesels than IH, Cummins and Cat. I just don't have a use for one.
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In the late 70s people bought some GM diesel vehicles including pickups becuase they thought they would outlast any gas engine made. I would resist the assumptions that a diesel will outlast any gas engine made and that if it comes from Europe it will be better.
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I could be wrong, it's been known to happen, but weren't those 70's GM diesels converted 350s?
I have limited personal experience with heavy duty diesels, but I have driven more than a few Cummins inlines and 6.9 naturally aspirated trucks that had well over 250,000 miles on them. I've driven at least two Puegots that had more than that. I love my 351 Windsor, but I have no delusions of it going 250,000 without needing something rebuilt. I'm sure there are exceptions out there.
With proper scheduled maintenance given to both, I don't think there's a gas motor anywhere that'll last as long as diesel.
I have limited personal experience with heavy duty diesels, but I have driven more than a few Cummins inlines and 6.9 naturally aspirated trucks that had well over 250,000 miles on them. I've driven at least two Puegots that had more than that. I love my 351 Windsor, but I have no delusions of it going 250,000 without needing something rebuilt. I'm sure there are exceptions out there.
With proper scheduled maintenance given to both, I don't think there's a gas motor anywhere that'll last as long as diesel.
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Originally Posted by origcharger
I would resist the assumptions that a diesel will outlast any gas engine made and that if it comes from Europe it will be better.