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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 08:58 AM
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Casting Numbers E6SC head/JY block

Need some help figuring out what I have? Any infor would be much appreciated.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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The number on the head is E6SE.... Didn't have my glasses on. Sorry
 
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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What exactly do you want to know? E6SE heads were std equipment on 86 HO 5.0's, and 86-91 Crown Vic, Lincoln Town Car and Merc Marquis 5.0's. I think some 351's those years may have ended up with em too.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 05:34 PM
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Those were the worst flowing heads Ford ever made. I would go and get a set of E7TE heads which came out in 1987 and were used on all trucks and the Mustang's as well.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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Those were the worst flowing heads Ford ever made. I would go and get a set of E7TE heads which came out in 1987 and were used on all trucks and the Mustang's as well.
LOL. How much flow do you need on a 302? If I had both E7TE and E6SE heads, I'd use the E6SE heads.

There was a recent discussion about E6TE heads, including a picture. Those looked real good to me as well. It depends on what you're trying to build, but I would never use E7TE heads. And you can get F7TE's for a good price. Those kick butt.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 08:08 AM
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LOL. How much flow do you need on a 302? If I had both E7TE and E6SE heads, I'd use the E6SE heads.
Stock head to stock head the E7's make 25 more horses than E6's. Now, which one flows more air?
 
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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Stock head to stock head the E7's make 25 more horses than E6's. Now, which one flows more air?
What you're comparing is the 1986 HO engine with the E6SE heads , which was rated at 200 hp, compared to the 1987 HO engine with the E7TE heads, which was rated at 225 hp. What you're not realizing is that the 86 engine had a smaller throttle body (58mm vs 60mm), and a different lower intake manifold.

So, no, the E7TE heads don't get you anywhere near 25 hp over the E6SE heads. I'll bet if you drove two cars with everything else the same except the heads, you'd go for the better torque of the E6SE heads.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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So you're saying Ford was wrong in their stating that the E7's make 25 more horses than the E6's? I didn't make this assumption Ford did. The intake valves are shrouded so bad on the E6 heads, that they'd never flow what other small block heads do. The E6 heads made more bottom end torque, but that's where their advantage ends. Ford used them on the std passenger cars in the line up because of this and these applications rarely see over 3000 rpms.
 
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And I have tried an E6 headed 5.0 in my Ranger and it was sorely lacking in power over what E7's make. I took a stock 88 Crown Vic 5.0. carbed it with a Performer RPM intake, a std 1850 Holley 600 and bumped the "base" roller cam with 1.7 rockers. All this and other than smoothing the sharp edges on the E6 heads, plus removing the Thermactor bumps from the exhaust, still netted not much. With a C-4 trans and a 3.08 rear, the Ranger could only manage 16 second 1/4's.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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So you're saying Ford was wrong in their stating that the E7's make 25 more horses than the E6's? I didn't make this assumption Ford did. The intake valves are shrouded so bad on the E6 heads, that they'd never flow what other small block heads do. The E6 heads made more bottom end torque, but that's where their advantage ends. Ford used them on the std passenger cars in the line up because of this and these applications rarely see over 3000 rpms.
Years ago I had put a 302 in my 1979 Mustang which was a 302 out of a 1986 Mustang GT. I ripped off the EFI and put on a 750 Holley DP with a Performer 289 intake manifold. The car went 14:30's all day long. Wanted to step up without breaking the bank and went and swapped out the E6 heads for the E7 heads. Just the head swap alone got the car to run 13:80's.
 

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LOL. How much flow do you need on a 302? If I had both E7TE and E6SE heads, I'd use the E6SE heads.

There was a recent discussion about E6TE heads, including a picture. Those looked real good to me as well. It depends on what you're trying to build, but I would never use E7TE heads. And you can get F7TE's for a good price. Those kick butt.
Not to be an ***, but your basing your info on that one porting website with the shop vac flow bench. I have compared both heads side by side and can tell you that the exhaust port on the E6SE head is more restrictive and the chamber is wacko. There is no way the E6SE head can flow as much as the E7's do. Everybody knows that on a mustang 5.0 HO engine, the lower intake is the bottle neck on all cars, so a 2mm TB difference is nothing, plus a shorter intake gives MORE upper RPM HP not less, why do you think for went to the E7's on the 5.0 then?
 
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Originally Posted by 1979Mustang
Years ago I had put a 302 in my 1979 Mustang which was a 302 out of a 1986 Mustang GT. I ripped off the EFI and put on a 750 Holley DP with a Performer 289 intake manifold. The car went 14:30's all day long. Wanted to step up without breaking the bank and went and swapped out the E6 heads for the E7 heads. Just the head swap alone got the car to run 13:80's.
You would have also seen a difference if you had replaced the 750 DP with a 600 DP or vacuum sec carb. That 750 slowed you down some. I ran a 650 DP that I had removed the choke tower from and blended the throats and then went to a vac. 600. There was a noticeable improvement with the 600 in accelleration. The 650 was too much, too soon. This was on a 5.0 with the same specs as the Explorer 5.0, but with ported E7's in place of the GT40P's.
 
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