And now we know the rest of the story!

 

Finances and needs are not the same for all, but I find so humorous discussion about saving a dollar here and there for oil. It's the intent of most to extend the engine life of their expensive vehicles and not becoming paranoid along the way.
Since 9-11-01 I had to cash out on investments that would never recover, thus losing in excess of 32K. At this point in time I will spend the extra dollars to keep my truck and car for as long as I can, and I do use Amsoil.

 

I'm sorry, but if you don't question any of the information leading up to the conclusion, and thre were no other changes made aside from the change in oil brand, on what basis can you question the conclusion that it was the change in oil that correlated to the increase in mpg? There are no other variables that changed, except for the extra year's wear on the engine. I didn't even do a tune-up or change the air filter in that year, which I know I should have done but didn't. Absolutely, without a doubt, the only other repair made to that truck in the year it was running Amsoil was when I changed the flasher element, which I am certain had nothing to do with mpg measurements or engine performance.

Question it all you want, aurgathor. Let me clarify, again, though... I am not saying that Amsoil will be the best thing for either everyone else or my "new" PSD.

aurgathor, I can only hope that you scrutinize every aspect of your own maintenance practices as much as you apparently do my post.

 

When I saw the topic I thought an analysis had came back in grade

Look at the testing parameter differences in these two Amsoil 30wts . No , not the fact they are using a grease test for engine oil , but the rpm and temp differences .

Now why does Amsoil do this ?

https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/tso.aspx

That one is - Four-Ball Wear Test (ASTM D 4172: 40kgf, 150°C, 1800 rpm, 1 hr) Scar diameter, mm

https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/asl.aspx

And for the second oil - Four Ball Wear Test
(ASTM D-4172B: 40 kgf, 75°C, 1200 rpm, 1 hr), Scar, mm

 

They have a new O/F out submicron full synthetic media. Designed 03-06 ford 6.0 diesel engines 98.7% at 16 microns which is far better than the 35-40 micron of the stock filter what do you guys think worth a try??

 

Pete, I have to agree with aurgathor, It probably wasn't the Amsoil that made the difference. It was probably the time of the year you were running the Amsoil (higher temps help MPG), you put air in your tires, etc. ......

I'm sure you have read all the threads regarding the benefits of the new CJ-4 rated oils for diesels. I'm very surprised your going with the Amsoil DEO, WHICH IS NOT CJ-4 API certified, and paying such an inflated price for it!

 

Originally Posted by Bob Ayers
I do too Brian!!!! I have had friends and family members that have had to file for bankruptsy, from believing the lies of MLM companies!!!



I knew BoB would come clean sooner or later .

 

I thought the OE filter was somewhere in the 20 micron range - can't remember the source. I've also heard of one case where the Amsoil filter collapsed because it was too restrictive. I don't think you'll gain anything by deviating from OEM when it comes to filters on the 6.0L.

Mark

 

Stay with stock (Racor made)... costs less and is OEM. There is no reason to run your oil and filter longer than recommended as the viscosity shears down... so even if the oil is clean.... the viscosity is worn out and a clean filter and oil is needed... so spend less and get more.

The Amsoil oil filter is a "will-fit" filter and this brand and WIX have been shown to allow "drain-back" of the oil out of the filter housing.

 

Edit post: never mind...

 

Exactly!!!!! Hopefully, this will be an incentive to keep people from being sucked into Amsoil, and other MLM cults!!

I've posted these URLs before, very interesting information on MLM companies!

http://www.falseprofits.com/MLM%20Lies.html

http://www.shop-money-time.com/main/id45.html

 

Being sucked into and MLM cults Are some harsh words Bob.

Nobody puts a gun to your head and makes anyone buy Amsoil.
Most people are smart enough to work a computer should be able to buy any oil they want.

If someone wants to buy Amsoil they know what the price is before they buy it.
Basicly you call anyone that buys Amsoil stupid .

 

Let's go ahead and get this out in the open, guys... Bob, neither you not aurgathor are reading and thinking about my entire post. You both have neglected to notice a simple fact, even when I've pointed it out since the original post. I ran the Amsoil for an ENTIRE YEAR... not part of a year like you have both suggested. An entire year runs the ENTIRE course of seasonal temperature changes, not just part of them. In terms of "airing up my tires"... well, I can only admit that I had allowed myself to get very slack with that old truck... I aired up my tires once a year wether they needed it or not.

Regarding CJ-4 certification... I really don't place exceptionally high stock in certification programs. I do pay some attention to them, but having spent a number of years establishing and maintaining ISO9000 certification in manufacturing, and being a trained auditor for both ISO and EPA regulated certification programs, I know for a fact that being certified only guarantees that you've met some minimum guidelines. There are lots of folks who won't pay the money for certification and at the same time far exceed those same certification requirements with their products. So... "certified" is not a magic word of guarantee in my book. What really counts is when the rubber meets the road and the product performs.

I made the surprising choice of using the excessively expensive Amsoil DEO out of willingness to run at worst a short-term experiment with a product.... a product from a company who has provided me with another product from which I realized sustainable real-life benefits. My money. My choice. My experience. My gain/loss.

It may not work out, and then again it may. I'll be more than happy to share all of the details from my oil analysis results with all of you as they come in. I've made an informed decision, and am willing to take the minimal risk for a few extra dollars to know for sure! If I didn't believe that my PSD would tolerate a little 3K-4K mile experiment like this, I wouldn't have chosen to purchase it in the first place.

If I screw this up, I want every one of you to feel the freedom (as I know you already do) to tell me how stupid I was. I can take it. I've taken much worse before.

 

Bob I don't know where your getting your info from. I priced MobilOne at AutoZone and it was 5.99 qrt
Amsoil is the same according to your post so how is that such an inflated price?

You take snipets from peoples post and quote the wrong thing.
If you read aurgathor entire post he said he ran this for a year not just the time of year or put air in his tires ,ect.......
If he says he got better mileage running Amsoil I say good for him but just don't discount his work because you don't like Amsoil.

 

Unlike many, many MLM companies, Amsoil is a product driven company supplying quality products second to none.