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My sig truck, two Harley Davidson in the bed, and Tag 27 foot trailer with every thing and kitchen sink...lots of booze and beer, guns and ammo, 3 or 4 adults, and two Boston terrier dogs...tools, gas, and my fat *** tip the scales around 22,800 pounds +/- 100 pounds We go about four times a year from Central Texas into western Colorado up and over some of the tallest and steepest passes in America
I tow @ 8000 TT, maybe 16,000 total combined weight
2x4
2001 CC
3.73 SRW
Most of towing is done in flatlands, so for me the 3.73 gears are OK. They cost me in the hills/mountains.
If I were towing more often, more in the hills/mountains, or more weight, I would be swapping gears for the 4.30's.
Mine is a '99 SD SC V10 with 2WD. It is completely stock except for the wheels but tire size is still stock. I have 3:73 gears in it. My first trailer was a 19' Pioneer which weighed about 6,000 LBS loaded. My truck didn't know it was towing when pulling that trailer. I just upgraded to a 24' '06 Cougar which weighs around 7,500 LBS loaded and I do notice a difference. The truck handles the extra weight OK but it downshifts a lot more when I am in even lower hilly areas. I do tow here in the Pacific Northwet (SIC) so there are several mountain passes I have pulled over including Washington Pass which is over 5,000'. Overall I am very happy with my truck and the V10 in particular but I am going to change the gearing to a 4:30 rear end very soon. My truck only has 73,000 miles so far. The V10 is a proven towing machine.
But there was an incident in Minneapolis during rush hour where I was cut off and couldnt' stop and just nicked a car in front of me because I didn't have enough braking power.
before i got it, my guys slid through a red light& hit a car( noone hurt)thank god , so the moral of the story is not can you pull it can you stop it.
Seems to be a recurring theme. I know the original intent of the question is basically how much do you regularly pull with your v10 and how does it do in reference to if a v10 will handle his 10,000 lb rv adequately. But everytime this type of subject comes up we can get into the my loads bigger than your load childish mentality. Or worse, we'll be loading firewood on our new trailer and remember from the discussion board where a guy said he pulled 16,000 lbs with his v10 and then we'll overload our single axle F250 with 3.73 gears or we'll say.... if he pulled 16,000, I can pull 17,000.
I just want to offer a reminder that when your in Minneapolis traffic and a minivan with several laughing precious lil children and an overanxious mom cuts you off and then she has to jam on the brakes because traffic has halted and she hits the car in front of her....... its NOT a good feeling to know that your carrying too much weight and can't stop in the reasonable amount of space. Luckily, there was no one in the passing lane and I was able to jump to the left and barely clipped her left rear with my right front.
That being said, I think the f250 v10 that Geneo purchased will do fine pulling your 10,000 to 12,000 lb rv. I'd say take her out in the mountains. If she shifts out of 3rd or if you can't maintain 50 mph or more, then sounds like a regear would do very well. From what I have accumulated, the f250 and f350's share the same brakes, frame and springs with the exception of 2 extra inches of spacer and possibly the overload springs in the F350. I'd suggest that you try to keep your tongue weight around 1000lbs and you'll be fine. If you find that your sagging in the rear end or you want to add alot of weight to the bed, you can add air bags or the timbrens that I mentioned. Happy pulling and let us know how she did in the mountains.
I'm really thankful, relieved, proud? that ford seems to be pushing more of the F450 line this year and is making it more available as an overgrown pickup for pulling some of these monster RV's. (not saying that anyone here has one of the 16,000 monster RV's).
well funny you ask, ihave been pulling a12400 lbs excavator on a gooseneck(6000 lbs) with my 99' f250 4x4 3.73,changed to 4.30,pulled good but stopped not so good. new hawk, powerslots helped but, it was mostly in city,so i found a 04 f450 4x4 v10 on 19.5 rubber ,before i got my, guys slid through a red light& hit a car( noone hurt)thank god , so the moral of the story is not can you pull it can you stop it ps . the 450 works great !!! gets as good or better mpg ,see ya barry
How did you like the hawk and powerslots. I'm going to have to replace my warped rotors and will change brake lining also. I'm thinking of EBC rotors and either Hawk or EBC brake lining. A mechanic friend of mine told me that he had a customer who had trouble with Ford OEM brake lining delaminating. He recomended going to a harder brake pad that didn't heat up as much. But ya know, that heat has to go somewhere and I think it went into my rotors. Anyhow, how did you like them.
Tony
My 2006 SD 4dr lariat V10 with 4.10ls 4x4 and torque shift tranny pulls my 29 baja outlaw sitting on a triple axel trailer that weighs between 9k and 10K depending on fuel and loading factors. My V10 pulls that load with ease. Either on the flats or hills...
A few times a year I pull a dual wheel trailer with 6 rick of firewood and another rick in the bed of my truck. I've never weighed it but I know it is heavy and the truck never misses a beat. I live in Kansas so it is pretty flat.
To put this into perspective: I used to haul firewood as a side business. One load I bought was all oak, not totally dry, but beginning to check on the ends. I would put 9 "ricks" (we call 'em face cords- 4'x8'x16"-18"). I decided to scale that load and it weighed something like 17,600 or 17,800 lbs....darned close to a ton a face cord.
Using that as a probable maximum, super 6.8 was hauling about 12,000 in the trailer and 2,000 in the bed, more or less. Firewood varies alot by species of tree and moisture content, but these numbers will get you close.
I'm probably the lite weight of the group. I constantly haul firewood in the 8' bed. Fresh cut green rounds or wheels (call 'em what you will), and split, seasoned wood, ready to burn.
Several times a year our 3770lb GVW Fleetwood Pop Up camper is behind us on the way to some place in this great country.
This truck (the one in my sig) moves our family and a full load of firewood up through PA from VA like my '93 F150 w/ I6 and Manual Mazda 5spd, never could. Man, I did love that truck though!
It also moves our family and the Pop Up around like my Buick Wagon never could either. But I still dig the LT1 powered wagon, bigtime!
From what my hunting buddies tell me though, my '06 SD is still a virgin. And will be until I can get and haul a deer in the back. Been skunked three times so far this year, goin' out soon and often to remedy that though! The 'ol '93 was a veteran then!
Enjoy,
RustyFuryIII
Last edited by rustyfuryiii; Dec 18, 2006 at 09:09 PM.
03' Crew Cab Short Box F250 XLT Sport V10 w/3.73 LS gears and 285/75/16 Bridgestone Revos. I tow a Wildwood 26FLS travel trailer with the front slide and a 17' Smokercraft boat for a total GVWR of around 18k lbs depending on what we load for the weekend (pic in Gallery). The truck handles the load great. I pull two grades that range between 6-8% that are each about a mile long. I can hold 65-70mph in 2nd at 4200rpm but I can tell I'm on the upper limit of using 3.73s. Up in the flats and rolling hills 65mph is no problem turnin along at 2600-2800 rpms in 3rd. the V10 does a great job. If I still have the same truck when I upgrade the camper or boat I may very well change the gears out for 4.30s as the 3.73s are on the verge of not doing an adaquate job when the hills get big! If I lived in the moutains theres no doubt that I'd have alread done the swap!
JFYI I have found wind resistance to make as much of a difference as the weight. The difference between when I have the boat behind and when I don't is quite minimal. I have also hauled a few tractors and bobcats. I've weighed a few of those setups and with the tractor I was weighing in at 17,300lbs yet I could tow it in OD when I was in the flat land where my camper pulls like a brick even in the flat land. A high rise fifth wheel won't be exactly areo dynamic so you may want to consider this in your purchace decisions. Good Luck!
Maybe I am considered a bit of an occasional heavy puller. Spring and fall I pull twin anhydrous ammonia tanks (15,360#) out from town on gravel roads and into fields to support my anyhdrous ammonia application operation. Short hauls, and tuff pulling on graveled hill and farm dirt roads. 4-wheel drive always engaged.
The rest of the year I run with a light 2-wheeled trailer and my ATV.
Always I have a 100 gal diesel tank in the box to fuel my diesel tractors, combine, along with parts, chains, tools, bars. I feel I need a good, tuff truck for my farming business that does as well off road as on. I can't stand any down time as I have enough to keep running without having to work on my pick-up. Today, if something happened to this V-10 F-350, I'd trade for an identical one, same equipment, tomorrow.. Ford and my Ford dealership have served me well.
JFYI I have found wind resistance to make as much of a difference as the weight. The difference between when I have the boat behind and when I don't is quite minimal. I have also hauled a few tractors and bobcats. I've weighed a few of those setups and with the tractor I was weighing in at 17,300lbs yet I could tow it in OD when I was in the flat land where my camper pulls like a brick even in the flat land. A high rise fifth wheel won't be exactly areo dynamic so you may want to consider this in your purchace decisions. Good Luck!
One reason I intend to shop for a used Airstream, if any are available. They have to tow easier than a "box" style trailer.
Any thoughts...maybe I'll start this in a new thread.
What do you guys do with rearend sag when you haul these big rigs? Airbags, better shocks, Timbrens? With my 12k lb. dump trailer sometimes it seems as if the front wheels are going to come off the ground. Most of thw eight is at the front of the trailer, so I know that is part of the problem.