That is very comforting news BowTie.

 

I've had one, but it was tuned... go figure...

 

My '05 was bone-stock and floated the head gaskets. About $8K for the repair (warranty)... new turbo (overboost was the root cause), new heads, new head gaskets, etc.

I'm hoping this set of head gaskets/heads has a long, happy life ahead.

 

It is a totally flat cylinder head, so doing any deck job will have a very minimal effect on overall static compression.

The reason I draw the line at .010 is because the surface of the head is getting very close to the surface of the valve. To deck more than .012 would require removing the valves (otherwise you would be cutting into the faces) and then the valve would stick out past the deck surface.

 

Blown two of them in an 05 sd 250 4x4 lariat cc lifted with 37" tires exhaust no tuner tow a 11000lbs+ trailer up steep grades. From what I gather there will be more and it just matters if the psd is a "good" one or not.

 

Keep in mind the load you are adding with the tires.

 

OIC, should have figured as much.

 

Yes I know that the tires change the gearing however I bought the truck as equiped from the dealer and I really think that with 54,000 miles and heavy towing with big tires it is mearly showing what is in store for many more 05's especially the early 05's which is what I have. Furthermore I don't think that any of the other diesel trucks on the market are having the issues that ford is having, at least not to this extent. I love my truck and I am trying to get ford to buy it back. I will still consider getting another one but I am very sure that in my case and many others Ford or more to the point IH has some fairly serious engineering problems with the 6.0 and I think they are paying the price and they will continue to pay the price. I do think that the truck would probably do much better if you only tow light loads but that is not what these trucks are designed for and I think that people that say that the load is to great or the tires are too big should remember that while some people put more stress than others on their trucks it doesn't mean that the babied trucks are going to fair well in the long run. We are all just starting to see the problems with these trucks. The 6.0 hasn't been out all that long and it is going to get alot worse as more of these trucks rack up the miles.

 

post count :6 + problem truck = troll

 

My biggest problem with this logic is- if you are towing loads of the caliber you mention, why did you install 37" tires? Be it the cause of the issues with your truck or not, the logic in such is heavily flawed and I have a hard time accepting other explanations until that is taken out of the equation.

 

Ryan hope yours doesn't blow up like mine. I can assure you that I may be upset but I am not a troll and I just wish we could meet in person because I think you would be very suprised. I am just starting to put together all of the symptoms and what they might of meant as they were happening. Just trying to come up with some answers as to why a truck that I paid well over 50k for and is not even 2 years old has given me so many problems. I owned an 02 7.3 before this and it was every bit as good as a toyota. I sold it with 85,000 miles on it and I didn't know of a thing wrong with it. It had never been in the shop for anything but oil changes and routine matenance. I pulled heavy trailers with it and it was lifted with a 50hp chip with not a single problem. Now that I have a truck that is giving me problems I come on this site looking for answers and sharing my problems and you call me a troll without knowing anything about me. I think maybe since you have the same truck as me you think since yours hasn't broke that you are somehow better than me. Those are fighting words and I think you should appologize but since you are so quick to judge you probably don't have it in you. Maybe you should have a cold one and relax.

 

I just wanted to make sure you understand that I bought the truck off the dealer floor with 37" tires. In fact they have at least 5 of them in front of the dealership right now. Maybe my logic was flawed for buying a truck that was lifted to pull such a heavy load but by your logic why is a dealer then selling a truck with such a big lift if it will now not serve its intended purpose. Further as stated above I had an 02 set up the same way and had no problems. Next my brother in law has an 03 that is even bigger with just as big a trailer and his is still running with no problems (except for a new turbo which is just par for the course for 03's pretty sad). Yes it puts a strain on the drivetrain just as putting a programmer on. But I would suggest that a 100hp program would be alot more strenuous on the drivetrain than 37" tires. I understand that you are defending the 6.0, but from my chair it is hard to do right at this moment. Really to me one of the best questions is why do some of the 6.0 have problems and others don't. Also I didn't notice where my two detractors are from but there is no doubt in my mind that So. Cal has some of the harshest conditions for towing in the US. Ford has to make trucks that will handle what we do here in So. Cal and the rockies not just in the flat states. If I lived in one of the flat states there is no doubt that towing would be a breeze and maybe my truck would not have blown two headgaskets in 3 months but it's a big country and they sell to all of us not just flatlanders. Now just to show you what a big guy I am I will not post on this thread anymore and you can go back to your everyone who has a problem is a troll programming.

 

Had several already, so I'll take you up on that. You have got to understand, you know nothing about us as well. We get flooded with tons of problems here daily, all form pissed off 6.0 owners whos trucks wont run. While you did fairly well by not saying I am going to buy a cummapart, or should have bought a cumapart, or a douchemax. Your still whining about who should be responsible about what, and trying to get Ford to buy back your truck..... Good luck, we have been over this a 1000 times with people in your exact shoes. I had an 03 and had 1 problem with it, came here and got advise, got it fixed, shared my results with the others and when the deals came out on the 05's I bought one of them. However unlike you, I searched and read hundreds and even thousands of posts and never responded, just took alot of it in. Since then here is what I know and can offer you instead of an apoligy, cause you are not getting one from me.

#1. This is the most important thing you will learn in this post......The 6.0 IS NOT A 7.3, DO NOT TRY TO COMPAIR IT TO ONE, WE DON'T CARE HOW GOOD IT WAS, ITS GONE AND IS NEVER COMING BACK end of story.

#2. The late 02 build 03/04 engines had issues with injectors (02/03) and head gaskets. Tuning was at best uncharted waters and we now know that the safest 6.0 is un tuned. BTW it will still out tow and out run a modded 7.3 that is tuned, and the auto trans won't go on a hunting trip and never come back.

#3. The 6.0 cannot stand to have crappy diesel run in it. It is high falouting when it comes to this, minimum 46 cetane or it will have driveability issues. Use stanadne or powerservice at the max dosage, and you will never have fuel issues.

#4. The stock air filter and air box will out flow the potential of the most extreme tune on the market, leave it in place.

#5. The 6.0 needs its oil changed every 5000 miles reguardless of what brand of oil you use, or how good you think it is.

#6. Do Not use any other filter than a racor in the oil or fuel filter cartridges, you will have problems.

#7. When using taller tires, you must correct your gear ratios to reflect the stock aspect if you plan on towing the max weight Ford allows.

#8. When modding a truck, you need to have gauges and know what to look for when romping on it.

#9. IF you want to mod your truck, be prepared to change the head gaskets and head studs out sooner or later.

#10. Last but not least, you get more for free with honey than with crap. Meaning your local Ford dealer has told you absoultly none of the above nore would he do so for free, which is why your truck is back there in the first place. We do not get paid to help people, we do it cause we like it, and most of all this is the absolute difinative source for Ford Truck info on the web period.

 

Moss Bros. in Colton?

 

This should be required reading everyone before they can post in the 6.0 or SD sections of the forum.