Performance 460 F350
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Thanks Darrin, who will bore these pistons? What type of buisness will do that? And how fast can this all be done? Will the truck be out of service for a while? howcoe the parts are for differnt brands, like Chevy for the connecting rods, and for the crankshaft its for an 88, it doesnt matter right? Also, do the pistons and rods come as set of 8, or is that for each...?
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the pistons are right, its the block that has to be bored .030 over, any qualified machine shop should be able to bore your block and balance the rotating assembly, and as for the assembly it depends on the machine shop, they should have it done within a couple days if they arent really busy, and then you have someone install the built motor back in your truck. the reason for the chevy rods is thats what rod journals the crank is made with, its the easiest way to get a longer stroke- smaller rod journals with more offset. as for the year- your 1988 is externally balanced, and your new 545 crank is externally balanced... so youre good- me ive got an internal balance block so im getting my crank internally balanced too- more expensive machine work than your build, and yes those prices are for the full set of 8... 360 dollars for the rods and 670 for the pistons
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You are the man Darrin, your detailed responses really help this process. Well, sounds like a lot of work, it drives me nuts. thats alot of money, to buy all these parts, have someone remove the motor, have some one bore, have someone install these parts, have someone reinstall the motor, and after all that, dont I still need to replaced cams, heads, injectors, valves ect?
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need is a strong word... you may want to get a bigger cam but it isnt necessary... the bigger injectors probably are... id go with 32 lb or 36 lb injectors from summitracing.com... there arent aftermarket fuel injection heads- thats the biggest problem with you wanting to stick with fuel injection- the lack of aftermarket parts. the injectors arent bad to replace, just take the upper plenum off and follow the fuel rails... there are 8 injectors- unplug them one by one and replace them... i could probably do it in an hour and a half... maybe 2 hours... but as long as you have everything apart for the lower end rebuild it wont be any more work to throw a cam in and have someone rebuild the heads for whatever cam youre throwing in
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also youll have to get the computer reprogrammed for the modifications unless its a mass air computer... which being a 95 or 97 it should be so that shouldnt be an issue
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if you really want a high horsepower engine and still have fuel injection you could get an aftermarket tbi setup like the holley pro-jection, and otherwise just build the engine like a carb engine- nice aftermarket heads, nice billet distributor, nice carb intake, as big of a cam as you want... but the aftermarket fuel injection setup like that will cost as much as your 545 stroker parts
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Yeah, i am only 17, so this type of money is hard to come buy. I love this truck, and lucky what I have already been able to do to it. but I expect to have this for years,so I bet with some saving, I could have every trick in the book done to this thing in 5 years.
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man... ive got a decade on you... im 27... and take it from me- life only gets more expensive as you get older... you dont even have bills yet
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Yeah, life looks foreseeably tough, I feel silly when I put money into this truck. My parents get so pissed when they see a new mod on the this truck once a week, they rather see be saving for a down payment on a house. I have put 15,000 into this truck, including the restoration, and engine replacement. Its a money hog, not including the gas guzzling aspect. I appreciate you helping me through this, and answering all my pain in the *** obvious questions. I just havea huge passion for this truck, and just want to be a king of my County.
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i know how you feel... my truck is an ongoing project- 1978 f250 4x4. got the parts for the lower end of the engine- the 545 ci, if i were to build it the way i want id have around 12000 dollars into the truck, and thats without any body work, but with the dual quad propane setup, 17" rims, 37" tires, 4" lift, aftermarket aluminum heads, hydraulic roller retrofit cam- lifters- and associated valvetrane, spool rear, locker front, and all the front suspension and steering components replaced- all suspension and drivetrane mods installed by me- but being propane powered my truck will last longer than yours- propane will double the life of the engine
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Probally so, but the time this truck decides it has enough, I will just put another motor in it, I got no problem with that. The next motor will just have to be a crate motor, no more dicking around with trying to replace everything.
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the problem with a crate engine is you can build a better one for less, and the crate engine wont be fuel injected, itll be carbureted, and most crate engines dont come with a carb, intake, distributor, and a few other parts... if you built a 545 using your existing motor youd still have the fuel injection, youd have more torque, and it would probably be more reliable because youd be more rpm limited- rpm is hard on engines
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