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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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Do I have PMR's

My truck is an '02, but the build date on the motor & the truck are both 10/01. I am wondering if my truck has PMR's? What exactly are the PMR rods made of? Does my truck have the same stock power rating as all 02's.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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Yep, Motors built after 10/25/2000 have the PMR's. Your truck shoul dhave the same rating as the rest, only need to be aware that you have PMR's and if you mod you will want to keep your HP <400 RWHP to be safe or rebuild the bottom end.
 

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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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Thanks for your help, but i can't find pmr in the common acronyms section. (I could be blind though). What does PMR mean, & why did ford weeken the motors by using them?
 
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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Powder Metal Rods

$$$$ - they are cheaper to produce and since they did not want to have to retool in the middle of a run they kept their same shape and dimisions that made them weak in certain areas. Now the 6.0's have PRM's and have no problems but they are beefier in the areas that the 7.3's have strength issues
 
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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It goes back earlier than that Alan. Witness below sticker on my heartbreaker, but I got over it. PMRs are not as good as the forged but both do break. There are a lot of PMRs in high HP/TQ motors, unfortunately as Alan pointed out, ours were not made as well as they could have been. They will still take a lot of abuse though. 400 ponies is quite a bit until you get serious.

 
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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thanks for the info guys!
 
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 01:12 AM
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I know it was posted before but are these stickers are on the valve covers? I need to check mine.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 01:24 AM
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Yep, they're on the valve covers. Mine is an 01 but my motor was built July 2000.


Proof of forged rods can be proven by removing service plug on driver's side engine block near oil filer and peeping in the hole using a mirror like I did.



Here's a link for those that are curious and would like to do what I did.

http://www.dieselinnovations.com/gallery2/v/tech/inspection_hole/
 
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 01:37 AM
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Great! mine is a 2001 also so maybe I'll get lucky and have an early build date. Just like xmas!
 
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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IT's XMAS!!! I have Forged rods!! The motor is a 9/00!
 
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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IT's XMAS!!! I have Forged rods!! The motor is a 9/00!
You better have a peep through that inspection hole and make FOR SURE.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 02:03 PM
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Yep, 9/00 is not safe. See post 5.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 02:04 PM
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mine is 14 aug 00 build date i guess im lucky? Forged rods , im correct?
thanks
 
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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No! You need to check.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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I would check them to be sure. Besides, I am curious if there are any earlier ones than mine as I seem to have the earliest PMRs that I know of on FTE. Check and let us know please.
 
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