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Originally Posted by bf250
well, they key word is it was strapped to his side, not in his hand and ponted at anyone.
we went rountinly when i lived in WA state out shooting, no one freaked when they saw us with guns and pulled out their gun and started shooting.
we went rountinly when i lived in WA state out shooting, no one freaked when they saw us with guns and pulled out their gun and started shooting.
Different situations call for different measures. That is why having a CCWP is to be taken serious. Outcomes may not always be the way we expect them to be. In this thread, the situation could have been read one of many different ways. No one knows for 100 % certainty , the intent of an armed person walking up to them....
Unless they know them, or the armed person is wearing a badged uniform, they would have to be mind readers to know that armed persons intent. And with our radios , TV's, papers headlined everyday with the senseless slaughters being done to innocents, only the unarmed person in the OT situation, can be the judge of how to read it. jmo
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Greg 79 f150 - i agree, its hard to knnow the intent of anyone walking up to you. and it is defintly more amplified if a weapon of some sort is showing or if the outer appearance of the person is "quesionable" i know i am more of the overly cautious paranoid mind when it comes to people.
just like one day in WA, my jeep broke down when we went out shooting so here we are, my friend and i, walking down the state highway in the evening almost dark with about 5 guns between both of us. 3 rifles and 2 pistols, we covered up the rifles with our jackets so it wouldn't freak anyone out.
we were hitch hiking back to my house and some guy actually stopped for us after about 1 1/2 hour of walking, we told him up front about the guns we had and we were carrying them so as not to leave them untintended in the broke down car. he gave us a ride!
just like one day in WA, my jeep broke down when we went out shooting so here we are, my friend and i, walking down the state highway in the evening almost dark with about 5 guns between both of us. 3 rifles and 2 pistols, we covered up the rifles with our jackets so it wouldn't freak anyone out.
we were hitch hiking back to my house and some guy actually stopped for us after about 1 1/2 hour of walking, we told him up front about the guns we had and we were carrying them so as not to leave them untintended in the broke down car. he gave us a ride!
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So true 250,
As a kid raised in the backwoods of KY ,me and my buddy (from age 10) were almost always packing some kind of gun/s down the road across the valleys and hills. All the neighbors knew we respected their property and the guns we carried. That was 43 years ago...
Having a gun in public now gets looked upon with a very different viewpoint. I wish it was still like it was 40 years ago. Back then,people around your hometown for the most part could be trusted, not anymore. Too many transients , so you never really get to know them like I did as a kid. People were born, raised and died within 10 miles of the same home, back then.
As a kid raised in the backwoods of KY ,me and my buddy (from age 10) were almost always packing some kind of gun/s down the road across the valleys and hills. All the neighbors knew we respected their property and the guns we carried. That was 43 years ago...
Having a gun in public now gets looked upon with a very different viewpoint. I wish it was still like it was 40 years ago. Back then,people around your hometown for the most part could be trusted, not anymore. Too many transients , so you never really get to know them like I did as a kid. People were born, raised and died within 10 miles of the same home, back then.
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Here's a good read for hand gun owners.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa012601a.htm
http://www.guncontrol.ca/Content/Cda-US.htm
http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa012601a.htm
http://www.guncontrol.ca/Content/Cda-US.htm
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thats why i like canada, really never have to worry about the person comming up to you or walking in the store is some whacked criminal or not. so nay less criminal minded poeple in canada.
imagine how nice some place like florida...or even all of america would be if we had staistics like that!
heck with it...i am relocating! now all i have to do is figure out how to keep the winters from being so cold!
imagine how nice some place like florida...or even all of america would be if we had staistics like that!
heck with it...i am relocating! now all i have to do is figure out how to keep the winters from being so cold!
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I visited a city in a neighboring state, and my wife needed to stop at the local mall for a gift certificate. When we walked up to the main entance, I spotted a sign that said no firearms were allowed inside the mall. Now my question to you: If you were planning to rob somebody at gunpoint, where would be a good place to do it??? How stupid is it going to get, before people realize that not being allowed to posess firearms, makes you that much more likely to be a victim of one?!!! 
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I never tried to hit him, and luckily I did not.
Second, what are you doing carrying a weapon in the open? Thing is, that guy saw you coming a mile away, and he already knew you had a gun. He already had the advantage. If you had killed or worse, injured him, you would be living in a tent.
Im glad you are OK, and im not here to argue semantics over what could have/should have been done. I just know i would have reacted different.
Dam...you are a lucky dude. Someone was on your side.
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From: Lynchburg Virginia.
Around here it use to be that if someone broke into your house the only way you could "legally" shot them was if, "you had exausted all means of escape". Now I don't know how you guys feel about it but if someone is in my house in the middle of the night without being invited, they are the ones who need to worry about escaping! I have heard that a new law was recently pass that allowes you to "defend yourself" in this situation. Personaly I always figured on defending myself, law or no law.
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Originally Posted by Mil1ion
Here's a good read for hand gun owners.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa012601a.htm
http://www.guncontrol.ca/Content/Cda-US.htm
http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa012601a.htm
http://www.guncontrol.ca/Content/Cda-US.htm
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You're correct JR,
I had trouble finding something more recent with the stats.
Of course the stats are higher in Canada now because of the last flurry of handgun and physco activity.
I linked to the atricle because of the short explanation.
I'll continue my search of something more recent.
The Liberal Gov't ended their 13 reign in January and I did't trust their site due possible number fudging.
Now that we have a Conservative gov't the actual facts will come out.
I had trouble finding something more recent with the stats.
Of course the stats are higher in Canada now because of the last flurry of handgun and physco activity.
I linked to the atricle because of the short explanation.
I'll continue my search of something more recent.
The Liberal Gov't ended their 13 reign in January and I did't trust their site due possible number fudging.
Now that we have a Conservative gov't the actual facts will come out.
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Originally Posted by Mil1ion
Now that we have a Conservative gov't the actual facts will come out.
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Hey, sorry I didn't get back to this thread. Good input, and as usual, you all have good input, even some I didn't want to hear, but needed to hear. I didn't get back, because something else jumped up to bit me on the butt. (See next thread)
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