Steve Irwin dies
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Originally Posted by TigerDan
Well said. 
Those of you who think making a spectacle of an animal was a bad idea environmentally have missed the mark. So lets say he plays with a snake, and worst case, the snake gets stressed and dies. Is it a loss environmentally? NO!!! The actions of the hundreds of millions of people now aware that that snake exists will so vastly outweigh any detriment to one animal as to make your argument absurd. I can't even imagine the amount of money and man hours devoted to protecting the enviroment due solely to Steve Irwin. Outside of his family, the animals will suffer the greatest loss.
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Originally Posted by derherr65
Ditto
Those of you who think making a spectacle of an animal was a bad idea environmentally have missed the mark. So lets say he plays with a snake, and worst case, the snake gets stressed and dies. Is it a loss environmentally? NO!!! The actions of the hundreds of millions of people now aware that that snake exists will so vastly outweigh any detriment to one animal as to make your argument absurd. I can't even imagine the amount of money and man hours devoted to protecting the enviroment due solely to Steve Irwin. Outside of his family, the animals will suffer the greatest loss.
Those of you who think making a spectacle of an animal was a bad idea environmentally have missed the mark. So lets say he plays with a snake, and worst case, the snake gets stressed and dies. Is it a loss environmentally? NO!!! The actions of the hundreds of millions of people now aware that that snake exists will so vastly outweigh any detriment to one animal as to make your argument absurd. I can't even imagine the amount of money and man hours devoted to protecting the enviroment due solely to Steve Irwin. Outside of his family, the animals will suffer the greatest loss.
I don't believe that I've "missed the mark". How many animals would it be okay to kill or torment to save the whole? What actions of hundreds of millions of people? And what benefit does mass knowledge of it's existence have for the animal? I would guess that most of the people that watched his behavior on T.V. had no clue what else he did for the environment or animals. They simply watched his show for it's entertainment value. So it can just as easily be reasoned that he also did animals great harm by demonstrating to a young audience it was alright to go out to an animals habitat and treat them in that manner. But it was just one animal, right?!!
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Originally Posted by jimbo beam
"oy boy look over there its a stingray, i gonna poke it with me stick, o look hes real angry hes pointing barbs at me, its alright little fella im not gonna hurt ya'.
im sure hes last words wouldof went something like that, what a guy though, spent many saturday afternoons watching him tackling gators and poking snakes with a stick. someone had to do it, and he filled the shoes, he will be missed.
REST IN PEACE CROCK HUNTER.
im sure hes last words wouldof went something like that, what a guy though, spent many saturday afternoons watching him tackling gators and poking snakes with a stick. someone had to do it, and he filled the shoes, he will be missed.
REST IN PEACE CROCK HUNTER.
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Originally Posted by greystreak92
Say what you will about the man, his practices, good, bad, or otherwise. The fact remains that it is a testament to a man's life (be it noble or notoriuous) to have so many from such far reaches and diverse backgrounds be aware of the fact that he is no longer with us (and in most cases moved in some way). His contributions to the world and our lives, whatever they were, will be no longer. Thank you Steve, for everything good you did. The bad, thats for you and whatever fate is yours to accept and deal with.
(Personally, speaking ill of a dead man who did more good than evil in the eyes of most is grossly misplaced on the day of his parting).
My humble $0.02.
(Personally, speaking ill of a dead man who did more good than evil in the eyes of most is grossly misplaced on the day of his parting).
My humble $0.02.
Well said, Thank you.
Who else to look to and remember when you travel abroad and see some of the creatures you saw on TV? And IF you ever travel outside your town's borders, you might know what you're looking at and how it reacts to you instead of YOU finding out the hard way. What have YOU done to educate millions?
Thanks Steve, you'll always be remembered for the things we would have never seen if it weren't for you.
P.S. I believe there's something written about man and animals in GENESIS, but I can't go there.
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"If you play with fire you going to get burned. Not a matter of if, but of when and how bad."
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Have to add this: Steve Irwin will be missed. His methods are currently in question in this thread. This will die down in time. It has been said he died doing what he loved. This is true. It also serves to make my point. He took a risk when he did that which he did. He took these risks knowingly. And it cost him his life. Controversy aside. He will be remembered as the icon that he was.
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Have to add this: Steve Irwin will be missed. His methods are currently in question in this thread. This will die down in time. It has been said he died doing what he loved. This is true. It also serves to make my point. He took a risk when he did that which he did. He took these risks knowingly. And it cost him his life. Controversy aside. He will be remembered as the icon that he was.
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I'm still in shock. Irwin was/is a hero to me. He lived his life to the fullest everyday. He had a passion for everything he did and went at everything 100%. How many of us can claim the same. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and so am I - I don't think he disrespected animals in any way, shape or form. He grew up with most of these animals, he knew how to safely handle them - and when not to handle them - I do not believe for a second that he endangered any of the animals he handled or that he caused stress that would do permanent harm. He educated and exposed millions to parts of the world and the creatures that inhabited them that otherwise may have gone unnoticed. He is a big part of what has inspired me to explore more of this world and my wildlife photography. I never wanted to leave the US, hell, I never wanted to leave Texas, before seeing part of the world through his eyes (and many others). I have traveled all over the US the past 2 years, went to the Canadian Rockies and am planning a photo safari to S. Africa for next year - with trips to Austarlia and Europe to follow. That is no small part to watching this crazy Australian of tv for the last decade. Thank you, Mr. Irwin, for being someone I could admire and my prayers to his family, he will be greatly missed.
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"in northern austrailia, every guy you meet would rather dive with sharks than a croc. one man - a lifelong professional diver - said that a 3ft croc was more than enough to keep him out of the water. they're taken so seriously that rumors of crocs would keep people out of certain bodies of water for years."
"You'll never see them coming, you won't even know they are in the area and when they do attack you will die of suffocation rather than being "damaged beyond repair"
"You'll never see them coming, you won't even know they are in the area and when they do attack you will die of suffocation rather than being "damaged beyond repair"
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Originally Posted by modar
"in northern austrailia, every guy you meet would rather dive with sharks than a croc. one man - a lifelong professional diver - said that a 3ft croc was more than enough to keep him out of the water. they're taken so seriously that rumors of crocs would keep people out of certain bodies of water for years."
"You'll never see them coming, you won't even know they are in the area and when they do attack you will die of suffocation rather than being "damaged beyond repair"
"You'll never see them coming, you won't even know they are in the area and when they do attack you will die of suffocation rather than being "damaged beyond repair"
You couldn't have paid me enough to have done his job.
