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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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I never wanted the guy to die and I feel incredibly sorry for his wife and children, but I'm not a big fan of people that feel it's appropriate to treat animals as though they're just toys to be played with and tormented. Still, I was hoping he'd change his ways and learn some respect for them, (and respect for what they can do to you is different than respect for the animal itself,) not be killed by one.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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Apparently he was swimming over a stingray and it thrust the barb upwards. It actually passed between his ribs and pierced his heart. Talk about a one in a million chance for bad luck . . . very bizzare.

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I'm not a big fan of people that feel it's appropriate to treat animals as though they're just toys to be played with and tormented. Still, I was hoping he'd change his ways and learn some respect for them
Read the Wikipedia article and pay special attention to the part entitled "Environmentalism". I think there was plenty of respect had for the animals.
 

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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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I read it. And "the road to hell is paved with good intentions." That still doesn't change the way he treated individual animals. Often ripping them out of trees, out of their dens, chasing them down, or trapping them. And he did this under the guise of giving the viewer a better look at the animal. On a large scale he did a lot for animals, but individually, he treated them with little respect.

Now is it my personal opinion that his death was a direct result of him messing with the stingray? Yes. I've never known a stingray to attack anything that wasn't making direct physical contact with it. As a life long surfer and diver I've been around stingrays quite a bit and been stung more than a couple of times. Each time it was because I stepped on it. Stingrays are not to my knowledge or experience an aggressive creature. They tend to want to take off when confronted.

But that's neither here nor there. Again, my issue is that while he may have had respect for animals as a group and did a lot to help them, as a group, he often disrespected the individual animal.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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Envirocon, very astute observation. It made a good show for the TV, but you are right, the animals had to have thier lives interrupted by him for the camera.
I watch a lot of those kind of shows, there is no intellengence to be found in sit-coms, and he is was not alone in this behavior. There's that other guy from down under that doesn't wear any shoes, forget his name right now, he does the same thing and he's not the only one. Just about all of them right now do that.
 

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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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Rip man, and not too offend anyone, but i do find this extremely ironic. the news report i just saw, however, showed his wife and children getting on a plane to go home.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ivanribic
.....Read the Wikipedia article and pay special attention to the part entitled "Environmentalism". I think there was plenty of respect had for the animals.
Wikipedia is a great site, but it is 'open source', and (from its own description) "...a website that allows any visitor to edit its content..." It is to be taken with a grain of salt, IMO.

Steve Irwin's death is unfortunate, for sure, but he not only liked to tempt fate with the animals.....but with humans too; Steve Irwin Prompts Law Change
 
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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He saw the world around him differently than most folks- it was interesting, engaging, and, at times, wildly humorous. His life- and ours- was much richer because of that.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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Kwikkordead, that other guy from down under may br Jeff Corwin.

They had Jack Hanna on the radio here and he said that if/when Steve Irwin died, he wanted it to be by a croc, and on tape.

They have footage of the attack by that stingray. Apparently the cameraman didn't know the seriousness of the attack.

He was known to live a low key life style and spent a good portion of his money buying land to conserve it for wildlife.

I still don't understand the "dangling his son (Bob) while feeding the croc" thing.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 01:24 PM
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Acko was the one who deserved to end Steve’s life. Goodbye Steve, we will all miss ya. Righty-o

 
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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Well I got to say after doing some more reading on what he was actually filming for, I feel real sorry for his daughter since what he had been doing was filming a little for her tv series. Thats going to cause a lot of guilt on that young lady, thinking it was her show that killed her dad.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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I agree with envirocan.

There is a constant sad display of dis-respect of animals & people by some people in this world on daily basis.

Scientists "Study Them" yes,,,,,mess with them for entertainment value...no

Some people say one thing for someone....and the opposite for others ...that's being a hypocrite.

We should all know animals are people too

Notice how many circuses there are these days ?
 
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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Say what you will about the man, his practices, good, bad, or otherwise. The fact remains that it is a testament to a man's life (be it noble or notoriuous) to have so many from such far reaches and diverse backgrounds be aware of the fact that he is no longer with us (and in most cases moved in some way). His contributions to the world and our lives, whatever they were, will be no longer. Thank you Steve, for everything good you did. The bad, thats for you and whatever fate is yours to accept and deal with.

(Personally, speaking ill of a dead man who did more good than evil in the eyes of most is grossly misplaced on the day of his parting).

My humble $0.02.
 

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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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"oy boy look over there its a stingray, i gonna poke it with me stick, o look hes real angry hes pointing barbs at me, its alright little fella im not gonna hurt ya'.

im sure hes last words wouldof went something like that, what a guy though, spent many saturday afternoons watching him tackling gators and poking snakes with a stick. someone had to do it, and he filled the shoes, he will be missed.

REST IN PEACE CROCK HUNTER.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by greystreak92
...speaking ill of a dead man who did more good than evil in the eyes of most is grossly misplaced on the day of his parting.
Well said.
 
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