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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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Talking Ford Y-Block: by James Eichman

We recently were able to fiund the Eichman Y Block book at a local library. We also understand the book has some errors in it- our copy does not show any corrections

Does anyone have a copy of a corrected errors sheet(s) that we might be able to get a hold of?

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Old Sep 1, 2006 | 02:53 AM
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The most glaring error is the illustration of the timing chain. They got it backward.

I realize that the Eichman book is the only book besides the shop manal, but it's not very good.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2006 | 05:19 AM
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I think Col. Flashman pointed out a few errors in that book in a post awhile back. You there Col?
 
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Old Sep 1, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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Most of these corrections are from Y-Block Magazine, a number of years ago, & there may be further updates since. For example, the cam specs are questionable, & no one seems to have a definitive answer about the blower cams/high-hp cams. It's somewhat irrelevant anyway except to a restorer, because all the designs are 50+ years old; there is better cam technology out there now.


Pg. 17: The 312 engine code is ECZ. ECJ is for 1955 292s only, I believe.

Pg. 17: The 285hp heads were allegedly milled .050 to raise CR to around 10.5:1 (per Bruce Young, who said he had a factory ref. on this)

Pg. 27: The casting # should be 5750471, not C1TE 471.

Pg. 28: The head chart has some questionable listings. For 1957, ECZ-E & ECZ-F are probably all ECZ-G, in reality. FWIW, the 5752113 is similar to ECZ-G, but with slightly larger chambers. Mummert's site has a much more comprehensive listing of head/block/crank/rod casting #s.

Pg. 29: He states that the 239 crank is not interchangeable. This is not true as it has been done to destroke for class racing, "back in the day". Eichman said later that his reasoning was due to the 239-only rod bearing design-but later most/all bearings were engineered to fit either design.

239 cranks have certain differently placed oil holes which MIGHT be a problem in hi-perf use. A good crank shop could fix this.

The flange may be different & need a spacer in certain cases.

This is all debatable, anyway, as few people are going to pick the 239 for anything more than a mild street hop-up or a stock restoration.

Pg. 38: The truck rod # should be C1TE-6200-C.

Pg. 72: As Paul stated the timing chain is incorrect, the marks should be on the right side (as you look at it) of the engine, 12 pins apart. This is the most serious error, but it's well documented by now. Also note the missing oil gallery plug, so it's a photo op.

Here is John Mummert's web site- also a good source of parts. http://www.ford-y-block.com/

Hope it helps.
 

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Thanks much for the responses. I'm suprised with all of the support and supplies for the Y Block- that someone hasn't writtern a well documented, comprehensive book on the engine.
Still building a library of documentation and support information to develop a build plan before we tackle our project 55 F100.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2006 | 06:20 AM
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http://www.y-blocksforever.com/

http://www.y-blocksforever.com/phpbb2/index.php

http://www.y-blocksforever.com/forums/

Have you been to the site above,they have some good y-block information also.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2006 | 07:16 AM
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This link may be helpful when you start the rebuild. It's from Rogerf100's gallery.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...8&albumid=1119
 
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Old Sep 2, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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Thanks much for the web sites!!!!- these are new to us. The site with the photos and build sheet will be especially helpful (from Code3). We've been saving our "Classic Truck" and Custom Classic Truck" magazine for over 10 yeqars now and we finally went through them and cut out all of the articles pertaining to rebuilding F100's. It amounts to almost 400 different articles!! Now I need to get the four boys on street corners panning for money to build this TRUCK!!!!
 
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