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Old May 19, 2002 | 01:42 PM
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we have a nice 66 1/2 ton and would like to add disc brakes and heard that the 66 lincoln would swap bodies and work. is this possible?

we have the 3 on the tree with overdrive but going to auto would be fine with us.

i have found a 66 lin. with four wheel discs that runs and before we buy we would like to find out where we can go for swap source.

any help out there?

also this would lower the truck and still have towing and load capacity.
 
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Old May 19, 2002 | 02:21 PM
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You can get the disc brake setup from a 75-79 F-150, and have the power booster to boot. As far as lowering the truck and hbeing able to tow, I'm not sure. You can lower, but if you tow anything substantial you'll be scraping bottom. My truck has been lowered in the front using Drop beams (DJM Suspension and a few others make them), and on the back you can use drop shackles. My truck has done just fine with the discs and drum setup (discs in front, & drums out back) I've had to lock them up a couple of times, so I know they do stop my beast....


You could possibly put air helper springs under the back end if you plan to do any towing, but I'm not sure how much capacity that will give you...


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Old May 19, 2002 | 11:33 PM
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I don't know where this wives tale got started about a Lincoln frame being the same as a F100. I can tell you with 100% certainty, they are not even close. Just look at the shape from underneath. A truck and a car are nothing alike on the inside, so the frames are shaped different underneath. Very few parts if any are shared, also.
 
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Old May 21, 2002 | 06:54 AM
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May I suggest that you buy a complete disk brake conversion for your truck. This will get you NEW parts that are components of an engineered and balanced system, technical help and a warranty. Conversion to automatic transmission is also fairly simple. Decide if you want a shifter on the column or on the floor. New parts (shifter steering column) are available aftermarket and some needed Ford parts are also currently available. Lokar makes shifters and Ididit now has tilt columns for the 66 F100. Power steering gear box, king pins, rubber bushings and tie rod sets are available from your local parts store. Basically you can buy NEW all the pieces you need to do a disk brake, power steering and automatic transmission conversion on your truck. Or you can invest almost as much money for used parts and spend half your life in the junk yard. If you have a place to park it you can buy a used truck and strip off the stuff you need. Used parts are going to need re-building or core replacement.
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Old May 21, 2002 | 09:03 AM
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 21-May-02 AT 10:03 AM (EST)]I can't believe buying new items from Lokar, Ididit, and Wildwood, etc, is just a little more expensive than buying used. All these new parts are extremely high-priced, and not intended for the average working man. Why would you spend $3-400 for a steering column from Ididit, when you could pick up a used GM tilt column for $50? These new items are intended for people that are fairly secure financially, earning a good income with a large portion of it disposable. I earn over $100,000.00 a year and could not fathom spending the small fortune that a lot of these restorer/rod shops want for their stuff. If you are looking for a show quality, don't put anything in the bed, make sure your shoes are clean before you get in type of truck, and price and value mean nothing, by all means go the new route. That works for many people and is fine for them. Magazines are filled with those kinds of trucks. Actually I wished I owned one, but not at that expense. Why don't you buy the Lincoln and mount all the running gear on your frame? If the Lincoln is cheap enough, this would be a very economical way to achieve your goal, providing you have access to a welder. You have to decide what you want and what you can afford. There is nothing wrong with used parts, provided they operate properly and safely. And, if it turns out you have gobs of cash, buy the new stuff. Just my opinion, and to each his own-no offense meant to anyone.
 
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Old May 21, 2002 | 09:58 AM
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 21-May-02 AT 10:59 AM (EST)]Personally I find a trip to the wrecking yard relaxing, kind of like my moment of zen. Anyway, I have bought a boatload of parts for my truck from the wrecking yard, and not had a problem until lately.

Truth be known you can get a tilt column from a mid 70's Ford Van.And as far asa brake conversion kit, you can get the same thing a lot cheaper and use Ford parts by going to the wrecking yard and pulling the front brakes from the later model trucks....The only trucks I know of that would need a conversion kit are the 61-64's.

I agree with you on the pro built show trucks. The ooh factor is there, but whatever happened to the busted knuckle "I did this myself" factor? I get more compliments on my 65, than half of the people with the pro built (or body shop drop off resto trucks)

Just my take though.
 
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Old May 21, 2002 | 10:19 AM
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Tim, I see that you are new here, but you just gotta get in the grove, WE DO NOT recommend anytime or to anyone to put gm parts on a Ford truck on this site. At tilt from a 78/79 is a direct bolt up, one from a van shortened 6 1/2" will work, gm parts will not. Ford trucks have been known to shake violently and puke after having gm parts installed, and we just can't let that happen to our beloved trucks.
I bought a 76 donor and used the I-beams for power disc brakes, the steering gear for power steering, sold parts that I didn't use and all of mine became $0.00 in cost.
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Old May 21, 2002 | 10:28 AM
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John,

I did the same thing with the 65 Parts truck I bought a while back. I just got through installing that Lokar shifter I bought from Skip, and the Four speed column that came out of the white truck makes everything inside really tie in together.

Now, if I could just figure out what to do about the seat.....I have a split back seat, that's telling me to recover it, and I have a set of the Mustang seats that are screaming at me to put them in instead. What's a moose to do?

Also, I decided on my truck color! Kandy red, I just can't get away from red, but the Kandy should give it the sparkle I'm wanting! Especially witht eh polished up aluminum trim, polished wheels, and polished 66 grille. That should be too fine, with a solid black interior and the tinted windows, to keep the a/c working nice & cold....


Just stirring the pot a little!

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Don't waste your time with the Lincoln swap. Even if you got a welder and cobbled it together, you will probally be killing any value your truck will ever have. Use the Ford parts from an up thru '79 Ford and get everything you want cheap, plentiful, and most parts just bolt on or take extremely little work to get to fit. Leave the Lincolns alone, unless you want a good 429 and a C6 trans!
 
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Old May 22, 2002 | 05:14 PM
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jowilker,
Actually, I was just using the GM column price as an example. Ididit columns are all based on GM parts. Most of the guys over in the early Ford truck boards use all kinds of odd things, like Chevy and Chrysler front clips, and GM steering columns. I think the way you do. I would not put something on my Ford that Henry wouldn't have done himself. If I wanted a Chevy , I'd buy a Chevy, not try to turn my Ford into one. So, accept my apologies for saying the "C" word, and keep Fords all Ford.
 
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