Dogged 302
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Dogged 302
I have a 83 Ford F100 with a 302 Weiland dual plane intake with a 650 Edlebrock 4 barrel. The 302 is out of a 79 Crown Victoria originally and has a few to many miles on it but it runs fine. Burns no oil and has good compression, the problem is it has very little get up and go. Does anyone out there have any ideas how to get more get up and go out of my dogged 302.
Explaining the DOG it will not turn the tires when you punch it it's like it's thinking all the time when you punch the gas pedal. I'm tired of driving Ms.Daisy
Help??
Explaining the DOG it will not turn the tires when you punch it it's like it's thinking all the time when you punch the gas pedal. I'm tired of driving Ms.Daisy
Help??
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From: Bend,OR
well when you swaped in that motor did you change cam's because the stock cam is not suited for your rig. also are you still running the stock exhaust? look into some good quality headers a bassani offroad Y pipe and 3" exhaust out stock location. if this is a 2wd truck you could probably run duals but keep the size down to 2.25 at most.
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From: Oak Harbor, OH
A 500 CFM carb would have been plenty. Also more air in means more air has to get out. If you only did an intake swap and didn't uncork the exhaust that is a lot of the problem. The other thing to think about is that it's an OLD 302 with a lot of miles on it. Just because it has good compression at idle with no load doesn't mean it has good compression with a load.
As for the engine not being suited for the rig I beg to differ.. We put an unmodified crown vic 302 in an '88 F150 and it made a screamer out of it. Ran great, no problems
at all.
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What is your timing set at? What year is the crown vic motor? My '79 351w from my LTD (same as a crown vic) calls for 15btdc, if you're only running at 10 then that may be the problem. Bump the timing up to the point where you get spark knock then back it off one degree at a time until it stops. That will be the ideal setting, make a note of what that setting is and remember to make sure it's still on that spot at tune up time.
According to the autozone website, the timing should be set at 14 degrees before top dead center. This sounds about right from what I remember in the repair manuals. Also there should be a sticker on the drivers side valve cover that will give you the correct timing spec for that engine.
As for the engine not being suited for the rig I beg to differ.. We put an unmodified crown vic 302 in an '88 F150 and it made a screamer out of it. Ran great, no problems
at all.
On edit:
What is your timing set at? What year is the crown vic motor? My '79 351w from my LTD (same as a crown vic) calls for 15btdc, if you're only running at 10 then that may be the problem. Bump the timing up to the point where you get spark knock then back it off one degree at a time until it stops. That will be the ideal setting, make a note of what that setting is and remember to make sure it's still on that spot at tune up time.
According to the autozone website, the timing should be set at 14 degrees before top dead center. This sounds about right from what I remember in the repair manuals. Also there should be a sticker on the drivers side valve cover that will give you the correct timing spec for that engine.
Last edited by pfogle; Jul 13, 2006 at 07:35 AM.
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