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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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Thermostat problem?

I finally got around to flushing the coolant on my 86 F350 dually cc 6.9 IDI. The coolant looked like it might have been put in in the last century! I flushed the system and drained the radiator and overflow. I got four gallons of coolant and two pints of NAPACool in the radiator when it was full, I ran the engine to get it hot and circulate the coolant. I went as far as turning the A/C to max and holding the throttle at 2500 rpms for a couple minutes and still got no circulation. The temp gauge was right about centered. I had the cap off and the coolant was steaming. I am guessing I have a stuck thermostat, but could it be it needs to get hotter? With the old coolant I only ran hot at 2500 rpm at approx 65-70mph on the freeway with the A/C running.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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What shape was your radiator in when you looked in at the cap. If the old fluid was really bad then the radiator core could be badly plugged and the radiator just does no longer provide the cooling it should.

Did you use the recommended Ford/International Thermostat? Apparently some of the non OEM thermostats you can buy can give you trouble on the 6.9l motors.

Did you check the air bleed ball next to the Thermostat under the thermostat housing for free movement. If your coolant was bad than the air bleed ball could easily have fouled up too and not let any air/vapour bleed from the motor to the radiator. If the hot coolant does not reach the new thermostat due to a vapour pocket behind it it may not open.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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If you do replace the thermostat...get it from Ford...a lot of horror stories from cheap stats. P.S. by the sound of your coolant, you should replace the stat and it will be easier to flush the block. lol
 
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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"Did you check the air bleed ball next to the Thermostat under the thermostat housing for free movement. If your coolant was bad than the air bleed ball could easily have fouled up too "
Fouled-up is not the word. That little ball bearing was impacted in the thermostat tube with hard crud that I had to pry out w/ sharp screwdriver. I used a Motorcraft thermo from the dealership and did the prestone flush when I flushed the system in the first place. I appreciate the advice I could have missed the air bleed if I didn't know to look for it.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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did you check the stat befour you installed it for proper operation. and i like to help the air out by geting the frount end up high by drivin up on some 8x8 blocks of wood
 
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 06:08 AM
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If your waiting to see coolant movement across the rad to the cap it's not going to happen, the rad inlet and cap are on opposit sides.

If you want to you can and should remove the block drain plugs one each side of the block and put some twist open drains from the Help section at the A/P store. You will then remove 99% of the old/block coolant. Only use std old green A/F and distilled water with the the DCA 4 or VC 8 sca's........Napa cool?

CAUTION:
The specified/required thermostat does not contain an internal bypass, since the bypass is located in the cylinder block. Whenever the thermostat is replaced, it is mandatory that only Motorcraft E5TZ-8575-C or Navistar 1807974C94 thermostat be installed.

CAUTION:
Do not attempt to repair any thermostat. It should be replaced if it is not operating properly.

Check the new thermostat before installing it for correct opening temperature. Before suspending in boiling water, with a flashlight check where the rubber and the flat metal flange meet for bad seal. Tstat should start to opening barely at 180-192f, fully open 200-212f, allow to cool and check for rubber seal again.

Removal: Disconnect batteries, drain 4+ gals A/F, remove: as required, fan belt, alternator set aside, alt bracket, remove filter support from fuel filter then e/block. Disconnect upper rad hose at rad, remove tstat bolts and housing. Clean both faces, depression and holes in block, ensure check ball in goosekneck is clean, free and rattles "do not remove".
Installation is reverse proceedure, I do not use sealant on gaskets and faces. REMEMBER the tstat pellet(copper end) goes into the block. I do use a "very small amount" of sealant on the edge of the tstat face when installing into the recess, now go for coffee, allow sealant to setup, this has saved me from tstat slippage when the gasket and goosekneck are installed. Replace all items in reverse order......

Manifold bolt torque......... 20ftlbs
 
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