Another Starting Problem
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Another Starting Problem
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My 1987 F150 4x4 won't start again.I turn the key on and pumps come on and I get a buzzing clicking noise from the starter relay (Soloniod?) on the rtight Fender. I bought a new one but it had to small male terminals and Mine only has 1. I put it on anyway and I still had the problem. I cleaned all the terminals and charged the battery real good but still no start but that same buzzing noise.
Can some recommend what I should try next. get another solenoid or what?
It was working just fine last week when I posted a problem with fuel pump wiring problem.
Thank for any advice.
ZZ
My 1987 F150 4x4 won't start again.I turn the key on and pumps come on and I get a buzzing clicking noise from the starter relay (Soloniod?) on the rtight Fender. I bought a new one but it had to small male terminals and Mine only has 1. I put it on anyway and I still had the problem. I cleaned all the terminals and charged the battery real good but still no start but that same buzzing noise.
Can some recommend what I should try next. get another solenoid or what?
It was working just fine last week when I posted a problem with fuel pump wiring problem.
Thank for any advice.
ZZ
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Take a meter and put the + lead on point #3 in the diagram above, and put the negative lead on a clean place on the engine block. Get someone to try to crank the engine, and see what voltage you have when the relay is buzzing.
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Originally Posted by zzjonze
I will see if I can borrow an volt meter and give that a try.
What should it read anyway?
thanks.
What should it read anyway?
thanks.
If it stays around 12V and buzzes then you have a bad Body ground.
Also check the small black wire with a green or white stripe leaving the Neg (-) post of your battery and make sure it is well grounded, it has nothing to do with this problem but gives headaches on truck in the late 80s.
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Thanks Subford
Still wont start!
It seems something is draining my battery too.
Yesterday I cleaned all the battery terminals real good and charged battery. Today battery is dead again.
Since I dont have access to an volt meter I will check out grounds. Hopefully I can trace something down.
will make sure that ground wire off - terminal is grounded good too.
ZZ
Still wont start!
It seems something is draining my battery too.
Yesterday I cleaned all the battery terminals real good and charged battery. Today battery is dead again.
Since I dont have access to an volt meter I will check out grounds. Hopefully I can trace something down.
will make sure that ground wire off - terminal is grounded good too.
ZZ
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it could be a bad starter or a bad battery. charge the battery, and have it load tested. this will tell you if it is good or not.
it almost sounds like the battery is taking a surface charge, but when you put any load on it, it fails.
it almost sounds like the battery is taking a surface charge, but when you put any load on it, it fails.
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What now? lol!
I took starter off took to AZ and had tested, it was good. I put another new solonoid on. I cleaned with die grinder all connections positive and negative grounds to cab and wires to solonoid. I did have a fused link going to the solonoid break off so I spliced that back. I put the little female connector to the solonoid post marked "S". While gone to get solonoid and starter checked I had battery charger on another battery charging.
Turned key on and still get buzzing noise from solonoid. I have put one on from pep boys and one from autozone. plus the original one.
Just wonder what I'm overlooking?
ZZ
I took starter off took to AZ and had tested, it was good. I put another new solonoid on. I cleaned with die grinder all connections positive and negative grounds to cab and wires to solonoid. I did have a fused link going to the solonoid break off so I spliced that back. I put the little female connector to the solonoid post marked "S". While gone to get solonoid and starter checked I had battery charger on another battery charging.
Turned key on and still get buzzing noise from solonoid. I have put one on from pep boys and one from autozone. plus the original one.
Just wonder what I'm overlooking?
ZZ
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Let's see if I have this correct:
3 different batteries, known to be charged, all do the same thing.
The cable ends have been cleaned, including point #4.
If all the above is correct, then the cable from #1 to #3 is bad or the cable from #2 to #4 is bad.
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Almost correct. I have tried 2 different batteries, 3 different solonoids ( 2 new ones) I even tried to jump start the truck.
I will start trying to change battery cables next, As soon as I get a ride back to the parts store.
Do you have a starting wiring diagram for the 1987, My good old Haynes manual does not show that.
Or tell me where I can look that wiring diagram up please.
Thanks for your replies
ZZ
I will start trying to change battery cables next, As soon as I get a ride back to the parts store.
Do you have a starting wiring diagram for the 1987, My good old Haynes manual does not show that.
Or tell me where I can look that wiring diagram up please.
Thanks for your replies
ZZ
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I couldn't get back to the parts store to change the cables but I did use jumper cables between 1 & 3 cable and 2 and 4 cable. Still buzzes and won't turn starter on.
I need to know if all the wires with those fusable links go on point 3 in the diagram?
Thanks
ZZ
I need to know if all the wires with those fusable links go on point 3 in the diagram?
Thanks
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need to know if all the wires with those fusable links go on point 3 in the diagram?
I like the jumper cable idea you had. Let's take that one step further. Take the jumper cable and jump from point #1 to point #6. MAKE SURE THE TRUCK IS IN PARK OR NEUTRAL BEFORE YOU DO THIS. As soon as you touch the jumper cable to point #6, the starter should crank without messing with the keyswitch.
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OK! I jumped between 1 and 6 and I heard lil sound down by starter. I have taken it back off again and done my own test with jumper cables and starter wont kick in. I hold the bendix down and it runs but it wont do both. I am concluding " bad starter"
Thanks all for the help. I will post afeter I get new starter on.
ZZ
Thanks all for the help. I will post afeter I get new starter on.
ZZ