The majority of the people I know who buy diesel pickups use them for work trucks and do one of 2 things. A: Drive high miles and B: haul heavy loads

I gather the majority here buy for hauling a camper.

Diesels are expensive. They are expensive to own, work on, and keep repaired. The only way you come out ahead buying a diesel is running it very high milage. I'm not talking about 60,000 or 100,000. I'm talking about a quarter million miles or better. Anything under that and your extra cost for the engine and oil changes didn't anywhere near pay the difference in fuel between a big V8 gas truck.

It seems there are a lot of people who "Love this truck" and have the "6.0 Grin" whatever that is. Yet when you look at their milage in one of these posts they have 5,000 miles or 8,000 miles or maybe 12,000 miles. Heck, I put 12K on mine in the first 3 months.

Then there is this thing, "I traded my 2004 truck with 20 some od thousand miles for an 06 truck".

Help me out, I don't understand that kind of logic. Heck, I used to run my old 300-6 trucks a minimum of 150,000 miles and one as many as 294,000 before I got rid of it. I don't understand the logic of "I just bought a $40,000 vehicle and traded it 2 years later taking a $25,000 hit on it and buying a new $45,000 vehicle.

Doesnt' anyone drive their trucks till they wear out anymore?

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Well in my case the 04 was having several sensor issues and the turbo vanes were sticking. Which means eventually the turbo will fail. And yes I bought my 04 with the intention of keeping it for many years of use. My 06 was $5,000.00 more MSRP to MSRP. And Ford gave me extra money for trade in because of my 04 problems.I didnt give $25,000 more for the 06. I consider my trade up smart. I get all the new features of the 06 (including all the improvements over the 03-04 models) and a fresh warranty. My 04 only got 14.5 MPG. My first 2 tanks in the 06 were 17 mpg for the first and 18.5 for the second(mostly highway). I guess to answer your question " BECAUSE I CAN "

 

Skipper, What kind of logic is that? You state the people you "know" buy diesel for high miles and heavy loads and then put the camper in seperatly. So a camper can not be a heavy load? My rv is puts my DRW near its limit and its with out a doubt an easier pull with the diesel.

Some people make plenty of money and it's their decision to trade at whatever miles. What's strange is your logic and post in other words your trolling or at least that what it appears to be.

I see quite the opposite that you do. I see and know many with the 6.0 and they don't have any problems. So maybe its your area or style.

And as wildcat posted some do it because they can!

 

I know of your problems with your vehicles, and believe it or not, you are actually in the minority. I'm not trivializing your troubles by any means, but I really do think that you have a dealership competency issue. There is a tendency for a tech to get disgusted with a vehicle and believe in his mind that all of those vehicles are that way. They will relay this to the customer by not going that extra step to properly diagnose the vehicle, and falling back on" They are all junk and there is no way to fix it". I have seen egr valves replaced simply because there was an egr code(ended up being a circuit problem). Seen turbos replaced because of the "turbo fart". I have replaced a grand total of three in the past year(one on a 7.3). There is a rash of techs not completely doing the reflashes, causing driveability problems.In short, if you do heavy hauling,the diesel(operating properly) is cheaper to run.

 

My job has me traveling 30 days at a time and then home for 10 days. I fly back and forth to the work site where they rent a vehicle for me. That is why my 05 F250 6.0 only has 18k on it. No problems, love the truck. I have it well over 1/2 paid for and hope to pay it off by the end of the year. I, for one, plan on driving her for at least ten years. It's longevity, double the life expectancy of a gas engine, and its ability to haul whatever I need it to are the reasons I bought it and I'm sure there are many, many more non-vocal people on this site that are doing the same thing.

 

I'm proud to say that I have 42K+ miles on my '05 and have had zero engine related problems to date. The only warantee work I had was on the power rear window. I plan to keep mine for 10 years and at my current rate that would equate to 500K miles. this is by far the best truck I've owned and would recommend one to anyone looking for a great truck. The A Plan helped with the cost too

 

well as usual my opinion lies somewhere in the middle. i personally enjoy keeping a vehicle for a long time. its fun to look back through photo albums and always see the same ol rig year after year. i have camping/road trip photos from the last 5 years and its cool to see that no matter what lake, mountain, amusment park or concert we were at, theres always a pic of my 2001 f-250 7.3 (gallery). back on point, i bought a diesel because i do put alot of miles on her. i had that 2001 until 2005 and when i sold it it had 140000 trouble free miles. now for the other end of the spectrum, in the last year ive had 3 trucks. sold my 2001 bought a 2006 f-150. that was a mistake. once u have a diesel there is no going back. so that truck lasted about 5 months and last april i bought a new 20006 f-250 6.0 (gallery). so kentucky skipper, although i love a old truck i recently went through that "no logic" phase (which sucked) i can say that even though i took a loss on the f-150 it was worth it to get back in the diesel. rest asurred i will be keeping this rig for at least 8 years.

 

Most people pull a camper 4 or 5 times a year max. I'm talking about people that work with their trucks. People that haul around a 4000 lb welder and 9000 lbs of tools and materials. People that haul farm equipment, cattler, farm products, and the like and use their trucks 5, 6, and 7 days a week. Yeah, I pull a boat with mine a well on the weekends, but it's primary job is a work truck.

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I agree with vloney. These techs are terrible. That is exactly what happened with my 04. I simply became tired of the trips to the dealer to fix these minor issues. And to me the price to up grade was worth it. As I said the 06 has many more comfort features , brake controller , coil over front suspension , shorter turning radius and I upgraded to an F-350 for more tow rating.Oh know look out I feel a 6.0 grin coming on!!! HA HA

I also like the looks of the Ford superduties. And the 5.4 is not big enough to pull anything. And the v-10 is awesome but the gas mileage is not worth it to me. I pull a 10,000lb TT about 15 times a year and my wife drives it the rest of the time. I use a company vehicle for my job. I feel my wife and kids are very safe in this F-350. So that is why I own one.

 

Heck, my mechanic invited a Ford engineer to the fix Skipper's truck party and he didn't have enough sense to know it wasn't running right let alone fix it. Who's fault is it the dealers don't have qualified technicians? Who's fault is it Ford sends and engineer down to help out that doesn't know what's going on either? Maybe someone built an engine than needs a rocket scientist to fix.

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i got mine because i can and i like it. i got the diesel because i like the sound and the mpg, even though it won't pay for itself for awhile, if ever. yes, its more expensive, but so are alot of things people don't "need".

i don't tow, or haul anything, its just my daily driver.

if i wanted to be practical, i would have bought a focus to drive.

America, its all about living in excess!!!!

as far as trading the truck in every 2 years, hey, if someone can afford it, why not? why go through all the trouble in life to go to school, get a decent job, move up in the company, make some good money, all to drive around in something old, whats next, just living in a 2 room flat? if i could afford, i would trade mine in for an 2006, just happens a used 2004 was all i could afford.

 

With that kind of logic skipper, I will guess you live in a house that was built in the mid 1800s just because its still standing.
Some people just like to have nice, new things. You just can't go around trying to justify things that people do with thier money, (but I guess if thats how you get your kicks, go visit the Pentagon). I sold a 94 F350 turbo Diesel with 200K just because I had an incredible offer on it. Had to get another truck, so I ended up with an 06 F250 ps superduty xlt that I got another incredible deal on, 31K to be exact. Some deals you just cant pass up. BTW, I haul a slide in camper several times a year as well as tow a boat. But it is used mostly for work, contruction.

Phish555
06 F250 ps superduty

 

Well, why get leather seats? Why get DVD entertainment systems? Why get any upgrade? Just get the 5.4 xl and be happy, right?

The 6.0 is just another option that some people like. Why are you so worked up about it?

 

Reads to me like someone's bored and looking too hard for an easy pissing match.
I think we have a Kentucy troll on board...........

 

I pull heavy loads everyday but don't put on a lot of miles so I like the diesel. I like for reasons that don't have to do with money. When I trade truck in I feel I get good value in return also and have good relations with local dealer that I can't pass up. Just got 2006 dually 6.0L for less money than my 2003 dually 6.0L with only 34,000 miles. So what would you do? Plus driving a diesel makes me cool.