Notices
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Fat Fendered and Classic Ford Trucks

Mid Fifty Cab corner patch panel trouble

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 29, 2006 | 12:45 AM
  #16  
sdetweil's Avatar
sdetweil
Thread Starter
|
Hotshot
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 11,591
Likes: 14
From: Pflugerville, tx
Club FTE Silver Member

The MF ones now come in black epoxy like the one in your gallery. The left side fit fine. The right side is a mess.

Here is the mismatch in length at the jam, the rear side is all aligned at the tuck point .. note that this is with the new panel ON TOP of the old, so it is actually worse then this, there is just too much panel body before the first step, so it can never align.. almost like it slipped in the press. (but the last one was just as bad)


and on this one, (A little hard to see ) is the space at the bottom of the door edge and the door post.. the lower lip of the patch is pinched with my vice grips, so it can't go in any more.. there is a huge space..


and here is the new door post piece layed over of the old one.. note that the new one is SO much bigger it completely covers the old one


and here is how that looks mated to the original post edge


and here is a look down the back edge of the door post, with the front edge aligned, showing how much too wide the door post is


Sam
 
Reply
Old May 30, 2006 | 08:56 AM
  #17  
mechmagcn's Avatar
mechmagcn
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,644
Likes: 55
From: Moro Bay, AR
Club FTE Gold Member
Sam, the problems you are having with the door post and rear panel is the same as I have with the LH door pillar and cowl panel. The lower end just doesn't come close to matching. Also these patch panels are so thin that I wonder how long the cowl panels will last with the fenders bolted through them. I guess the suppliers think that because we are building 50 year old trucks, so we have to take whatever parts we can get. Jeff
 
Reply
Old May 30, 2006 | 09:28 AM
  #18  
Cowman's Avatar
Cowman
Senior User
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 163
Likes: 0
From: Everett, Washington
I bought a set of plain steel corner patch panels (unpainted) from F100 Connections in Lynden, WA a few years back and the driver side fit perfect the first time after incorporating the "lessons learned" from the right side. On the right side, I cut from the the high point just above the frame, up and around to the door jam. Wanted to be sure to cut out ALL the rusted thru and rust affected areas. I actually cut highter than I needed to and that was where I got into trouble. The last outer vertical stiffener indent in the rear of the cab ran into the part I cut out but I did not see that as a problem as the patch panel had the indent already incoporated. I cut out all the old rusted metal, cleaned everything real good, even fabbed up some replacement sheet metal for the inner parts that were bad. When all that was done, I fit the patch panel, starting at the door jame and worked my way aft. Everything fit fine till I got to the vertical stiffener. It was off by at least 1/2". I ended up spending a lot of time hammering the stiffener so that it would align with the oem. I finally got them welded together but it it still very noticable as a mismatch when the bed is off. If I had it to do over, I would have cut low enough to miss that part. Had I done that the patch panel would have been a good fit which is what happened on the left side.
FWIW, I also got my door panels from the same place and they were a good fit. Again I cut away more OEM metal than I needed to.
I'm surprised that the MidFifties panels are such a PITA as I have been pretty happy with most everything I have gotten from them (not everything). I hope they get it worked out and make things right for you.
Good luck.
 
Reply
Old May 30, 2006 | 10:18 AM
  #19  
Jeff55F100's Avatar
Jeff55F100
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
From: Fitchburg, MA
I've experienced the same type of frustration you are describing. I actually fabricated my own lower door posts since I didn't like any of the ones I saw from any other supplier. The patch panels took me the good part of a month to fit correctly. Lots of patients, rebending, clamping, and welding. Make sure you have your door on when you get a final fit, in order to match the curve of the panel with the bottom curve of the door.

Just my two cents.
 
Reply
Old May 30, 2006 | 12:16 PM
  #20  
mechmagcn's Avatar
mechmagcn
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,644
Likes: 55
From: Moro Bay, AR
Club FTE Gold Member
Would the short patch panels work to repair this? I seem to have only minor cancer at the lower edge only and not all the way to the door opening.
Thanks, Jeff
 
Reply
Old May 30, 2006 | 01:19 PM
  #21  
sdetweil's Avatar
sdetweil
Thread Starter
|
Hotshot
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 11,591
Likes: 14
From: Pflugerville, tx
Club FTE Silver Member

Yes, particularly if the door edge line is good. Stay under the mount hole as much as possible..

Sam
 
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2006 | 05:23 PM
  #22  
sdetweil's Avatar
sdetweil
Thread Starter
|
Hotshot
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 11,591
Likes: 14
From: Pflugerville, tx
Club FTE Silver Member

Well, Sy from Mid Fifity finally had a chance to look at my pictures, and confirmed the problems I am seeing.. unfortunately he doesn't have any alternative patch panels.. He said all the suppliers are using the same forms, and so will end up with the same set of issues..

Sam
 
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2006 | 07:07 PM
  #23  
merc546's Avatar
merc546
Posting Guru
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,243
Likes: 0
From: Michigan
Sam: Sy is female. I bought my patch panels from dennis carpenter and they weren't any better. Took a while but I just cut out the rusted areas and beat the new panel sections untill they fit.
Chuck
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-2

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-4

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-5

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-8

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 11:22 AM
  #24  
AXracer's Avatar
AXracer
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 15,882
Likes: 88
From: Durham NC
It is a shame, but it is a fact of life that the patch panels are made overseas and the original patterns aren't real good or I suspect here possibly due to a lack of communication were made to fit over the original part that was given as a pattern. Also the dies wear and are not replaced so the bends soften. If the fit is critical, then the only alternatives are to fab your own or alter what's available. The latter would probably suit Jeff's needs as it doesn't look like he needs the doorpost portion.
This is not a new problem if that's any consolation, I remember using patch panels to repair rear quarterpanel rustout on a 57 Ford station wagon in ~ '60 and the fit there ended up making the wheel wells 4" shorter!
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 05:50 PM
  #25  
sdetweil's Avatar
sdetweil
Thread Starter
|
Hotshot
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 11,591
Likes: 14
From: Pflugerville, tx
Club FTE Silver Member

I spent the day putting the outer cornre on, and slicing out the extra material.

got it all lined up and about half welded in..

Sam
 
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2006 | 04:49 PM
  #26  
mechmagcn's Avatar
mechmagcn
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,644
Likes: 55
From: Moro Bay, AR
Club FTE Gold Member
I ordered a set of corners from BOTP. The LH seems like it will be workable, the RH is a joke. Looks like I will be trimming and cutting for some time to make these things fit. As others have said, it looks like they made the dies for the patches to fit over the old panels.

Jeff

At least on the RH patch I only need about 4" of the bottom.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
AXracer
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
109
Aug 21, 2020 02:41 PM
trumph
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
4
Sep 19, 2015 11:28 PM
DirtyLarry
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
7
Jan 18, 2015 08:33 PM
AXracer
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
3
Dec 2, 2014 11:43 AM
adamm285
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
7
Jun 29, 2013 10:35 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:10 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-1
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-3
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-5
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-7
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE