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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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1995 MAF 302 w/ E4OD?

OK Guys, I have been looking around and have found that some of the 95's were MAF withthe E4OD and EEC-IV computers.

Is this a real animal and if so, what do those of us with 89-94 trucks with E4OD's have to do to get the 1995 setup?

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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 08:23 AM
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not a real animal. but more flexible system when doing certain mods. you can go a long ways with what you have before needing maf . Cam selection is key for speed density.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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Real Animal

"The reason there hasn't been a MAF conversion for the Lightning is because it has an E4OD transmission, and there was no ECU that was both MAF and that would control the E4OD. That’s changed now, as there are several truck EECs that are MAF and work with the E4OD, for example the 5.8L F5TF-12A650-BYA, the 5.0L F5TF-12A650-HB and the F5TF-12A650-GB."

http://www.aces.edu/~gparmer/efi/carb2efi.html

VEX1 5.0 Bronco, F-x50 E-x50 MAF / E4OD / F5TF-12A650-HB
WAY1 5.0 Bronco, F-x50 E-x50 MAF / E4OD / F5TF-12A650-JB

http://fordfuelinjection.com/index.php?p=17

They are California Emmissions computers. They will also take an aftermarket chip.

So, what parts are different and what is to keep me from buying the computer and harness and parts an going MAF?

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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 09:43 AM
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nothing, just time and money. but why do you need maf? that is the real question.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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Everything that I have seen about MAF is that it is more efficient and easier to work with in general.

I want my truck to run well and make little changes along the way, not radical changes at one time. The MAF system is able to handle the smaller changes and give you the benefits and adapt as opposed to MAF.

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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tomtrevino
Everything that I have seen about MAF is that it is more efficient and easier to work with in general.

I want my truck to run well and make little changes along the way, not radical changes at one time. The MAF system is able to handle the smaller changes and give you the benefits and adapt as opposed to MAF.

Tom
Speed density injection will handle small changes just fine. Its the radical ones that don't take into account the rather narrow cam lobe separation margins that speed density doesn't care for. And as Kemicalburns already mentioned, there are speed density-safe cam options available.

MAF systems (especially aftermarket) are not very tolerant of oil-net air filters so get rid of your K&N setup right now (drop-in or otherwise). The oil particles get trapped in the vanes of the MAF sensors and start wreaking all sorts of havoc.

Easier to work with... in what way? More wires, ANOTHER sensor to fail, completely different onboard computer... sounds like more trouble than its worth.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 11:07 PM
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Greystreak,

I am not going "aftermarket" but am actually buying the California ECM that came factory in 1995. It was set up for the E4OD which is perfect for me.

I plan to go roller cam and add headers wth a custom RAM air system (not the hot air system that K&N sells and the others that suck under the hood). I have a source in Dallas that will fab it on a mandrel to work from the holes off of a 1996 Bronco's bumpers.

I haven't gone K&N or anything like that yet and probably won't.

It boils down to the engine being a large AIR PUMP. SD guesses how much air you are pumping and then adjusts, MAF gives you a more realistic number. I guess if you are pumping air, you would rather know how much than estimate how much.

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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 11:53 PM
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Even the OEM airbox configuration is better than the underhood induction setups. I run the K&N drop-in filter in mine because I refuse to have hot air pulled into the uinduction system.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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Greystreak,

I am looking for an F-250 plenum right now because it is much shorter and larger than the Bronco intake. Also, it goes right beside the radiator and to the front of the vehicle instead of between the radiator and hood where there is little airflow. I plan to exhaust wrap the entire thing to keep it insulated and go with ceramic headers to get heat out of the engine compartment. I already have the intake Y-Pipe to go with the 95 F-150/Bronco air box, now I need to find the airbox or get it from the dealer.

Once I do my larger changes, I plan to do the custom RAM AIR system from the bumper up. I figure dual 3" exhaust tubing or 4" diesel exhaust tubing to the air box would be good.

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sounds like you expect this thing to be a mustang or other fast mover. hope your not disapointed after spending all this money on something that weights almost 3 tons. going maf is an ok idea if you have the cash and patience. will you gain much from it maybe maybe not. ask the lightning guys, most of them swear by SD and have found it to be better then maf once its tuned with a tweecer that is. but none the less those guys are running strokers, turbos etc.. from SD (tuned) and getting low 12's if not better. if you put your air intake tubing low on the bumper like that you may cause water to enter the engine. there is a reason on these 4wd rigs that its up high like it is and why you also dont see a ram air hood setup either. I like driving thru puddles and water in my 4wd and not worry about it. all things to think about.
 
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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what about the jb computers? those will work wont they?
 
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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i have a 1994 with maf just baught it does this mean it was converted?
 
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94 was the first year for maf running a 302.
 
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