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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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Truck is a 68 F100, 390/T18. Wife can't sit in it any more because of the mold. Window hardware (dingus that rolls to make the windows go up and down) in both doors is frozen solid, so both windows are stuck halfway down, and have been that way for a while. Glass is fine and I could replace the channels/rubber, but the darn things just won't go up or down.

I'm thinking about re-doing the interior so we can use the truck, but it's a fruitless gesture with no working windows. I can't find the right hardware anywhere, including local boneyard. Any suggestions?

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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 06:03 AM
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Hey it is getting warmer, let her ride in the back.

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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:19 AM
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And if your wife doesn't react well to jowilker's suggestion, I guess you will have to fix the darn windows. The mechanism is very simple and I'm betting you can repair yours and avoid buying replacements. Incidentally, LMC sells the regulators new for around $70 each and roller kits for a lot less. Post if you need advice on getting in there and fixing them.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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Squirt everything in there with Liquid Wrench to get it all unseized and then WD-40 to lube it. It'll cost you about $3-4 for a can of each. And you probably already have one of them.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by qman
Squirt everything in there with Liquid Wrench to get it all unseized and then WD-40 to lube it. It'll cost you about $3-4 for a can of each. And you probably already have one of them.
qman, hate to say it, but WD40 is not a lubricant at all. Actually it is a product much like Liquid Wrench.

Don't take my word for it, check out the label.

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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:04 PM
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Yea, I guess liberally spraying lubricant in there might free it up but it sure will make a mess. I would take it out, clean it up, paint it, reassemble it and lube it with some white lithium grease. It will be as good as new. Failing that, have a cold one and order a new one.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 12:40 AM
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Thanks guys---I have gone through the part that turns to move the arm up and down (roller? regulator? beats me) with WD40, Liquid Wrench, etc. to no avail. Whatever bearings are in there must have rusted through completely. It looks like a closed-up unit, I don't have the thing in front of me but I seem to remember it was riveted together. I may drill out the rivets and see what I can come up with.

The arm that holds the glass is fine, it's just the dingus that rolls back and forth that is frozen. Could use new channels too, of course, considering they are only 37 years old! I can order those from JC Whitney or LMC, but neither one appears to have the rolly part for the 68 year model, at least not in the 2 yr old catalogs I have.

Thanks again all, I'll try LMC. $70 apiece isn't too bad as long as I can figure out exactly what to order, and if the part is the right one.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 06:09 AM
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kaulike, Don't know when you have time off, but it doesn't take a lot to remove the the complete mechanism. Get it out and on a bench or the tailgate, and I bet you can get it working again in short order.

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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by jowilker
qman, hate to say it, but WD40 is not a lubricant at all.
yeah, I know. It does provide a pretty good lube for something like this though. I did a test on my window units. The springs were all crusty rusted and it was hard to roll them up. I sprayed one with WD and I blobbed the other full of a lightweight teflon bicycle grease. They both worked well but the grease is smoother and lasts better. When the grease gets hard I'll clean it off with WD and do it again.
 

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