It's not phantom HP, each step makes small gains, one step alone, not a big gain, but several steps combined, can lead to an overall noticable difrence as we have stated before.

 

I think you are close Joe.....but if I remember the feeling, it was more like 50PHP!!! That engine was breathing heavily!!!

 

I thought you got that 50hp from your tornado and helix you installed -

 

Hmmmm, the tornado and the K&N (aka, MAF contaminator) are all so wonderful, but actually just removing the entire intake setup and the air filter element would probably be a slick mod. Reduces vehicle weight too . In my basement I have some 6" ABS that can be used to make a tube so cold air is drawn in via the location currently used by the OEM air cleaner. Problem is, it's schedule 40 and that stuff is heavy so it would probably be of benefit to buy new pipe with a different schedule # (bad to add the weight back). Cold air is good, so one must not undo what the factory provided. I suppose a little burning with a cutting torch will be required to fit that pipe through the core support, and then viola, the phantom rides . Silver spray paint would add bling, but with a weight penalty.

Now it's time to investigate the benefits of synthetic antifreeze. Less resistance to flow, easier for the water pump to move, gotta be a little HP gain, and whooooo baby, I'm gonna punch it roll the skin on my eyeballs back

 

Billy, you are an engineering genius!!! I'm sure everybody else are envious that they didn't come up with these mod ideas to increase PHP!!

Taking your thoughts a step further, check out this URL. This stuff comes in 24" diameter, imagine the intake you could make with this stuff:

http://www.ads-pipe.com/us/en/produc...WallPipe.shtml

And instead of a K&N, just use chicken wire as a filter!! Imagine how that baby will BREATHE!!

WOW, synthetic antifreeze...what an idea!! As slippery as that stuff will be, you could decrease the water pump RPMs by 1/2!! Just increase the pulley diameter!! Again Billy, you are a genius!!!! There will be no limit to the increase in PHP!!!

 

Ya know, I graduated in Mechanical Engineering from the Washington State University about 20 years ago and worked as an Engineering Tech before that. Engineering is really nice in that it explains things. Like fluid mechanics.

You are right about my tube size in the proposal. I have a new plan. Remove everything forward of the TB and take off the hood. Free flowing like a leaf in the wind, lots of cold air, AND more weight reduction. Hmmmmmm thinking about the gains.........old rule of thumb.....remove 100lbs of dead weight........gain .1 sec in the 1/4 mile.

 

Absolutely incredible Billy!!!!! And don't forget about the gas mileage!!!!!!!

 

Billy it's a shame that you spent all that money on an engineering degree, and still don't know the basics on how to alittle extra hp out of an engine. Who do you work for, kia? Maybe you sould put that degree to use at roush racing. There they could educate you on how to create a stage 3 mustang, roush f-150, or even a roush focus. And do yow know what all these roush vehicles have in common? No matter what else they have, they all have cai, in one form or another, because some or super charged, so the intakes differ. They all have catback exhaust, and they all have dyno sheets to warrent thier extra price to the public. Either Jack Roush is an idiot, or a genius. Well", he must be an idiot, becauses he uses all those mods, that you , and Bob say don't work, on his street version performance vehicles, along with steeda, saleen, and so many others in the performance world. I can see why you guys don't build race cars, you'ld never win!! Your guys views on synthetics is so pathetic, you don't have a clue. I would ask for my money back on that degree!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Bob, I was talking about the Bilsteins!

 

.....Joe, so was I!!!

 

Guy's, how about the edelbrock performer ias shocks? Anybody use them? There self adjusting, they look sweet, and edelbrock is a name brand. That was another one that I was considering, what do you guy think, Bob, Billy, what do you engineers think? I'll trust your opinions on this matter ha ha.

 

I have seen some posts over the past few years about quality problems with the Edelbrock shocks. Like they start leaking early, and unless you have your proof of purchase (sales receipt, etc.) Edelbrock won't replace them....
I have been happy with Bilsteins. They are OEM for Mercedes, and they have never been replaced on the 2 Mercedes I have....

 

Thanks Bob, I think bilstien will get my money then, if benz uses them, they must be a really good product!

 

I like to use fact VS emotional hype to evaluate mods; it's served me rather well over the years. But alas, it can be tough to communicate with folks who are on different pages . If you've ever been involved with a new product, development through marketing and then on out into the field, you'd might understand why. The last time I looked, and unless someone broke into my garage last night, my intake ingests cold air (vehicles do that nowdays for obvious reasons) and there is an exhaust system from the catback. In fact, it exits via a tailpipe. BTW, please feel free to specifically show me where I said Jacks stuff doesn't work. Read carefully now. Ditto on synthetics, thank you.

*Jacks offereings for the Ranger are a little on the lean side . Hmmmmmm.

 

Billy, what I am saying about Jack, is that he opens up the intake, and exhaust on his vehicles, using the same methods that you, and Bob make fun of, at least I took it that you were making fun of catback exhaust, and cai's. Either one on a stock vehicle,
not at there full potental, because of the noise factor. The factory wants decent flow, and quietness from both ends. People like Jack start by opening up the airbox, and exhaust, and start from there buiding performance. What really bugs me, as that I have installed and experimented with different mods over the years, I have taken what I've learned. and put together a nice ranger, and people act like your lieing, and still try to tell me what doesn't work, when I'm using it, and know. Sorry, maybe it wasn't you who was bashing synthetics, I guess I'm clumping you , and Bob together. Ranger offerings are alittle slim, but the mustang now using the 4.0, I feel will change all that. More so for the street crowd, than us offroaders. Between hp, or torque, I'll take lowend torque anyday, I lost some with a few of my mods, but the bama programer,udp, and e-fan helped me get most of it back, if not all, plus I went with a little bigger tire, so that changed my gear ratio a tad. I am pretty pleased with it now, 456's would help my torque band offroad, but on the road, it would eat more gas, so I need to compermise. Thanks for listening Billy, those engineering digs were all in fun, your still my bud, and one of my go to guys, when I need real serious answers,,,Thanks!!