Wendall, I suggest you read this thread regarding synthetics. Flash is probably the most knowledgeable person on FTE when it comes to oil:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...7&page=1&pp=15

 

There again the benifits of the ware protction, heat reduction is known thruogh out the racing world, from NASCAR, NHRA, OFFROAD SCORE RACING, iNDY SERES, it's unbelievable how the whole world is wrong, but acouple of people are right. They even use synthetic oil from the factory in a lot of performance cars, the vipper for one, I sold dodges for a year(low point in my life), they came with molble1. I use to use havoline, now moble1, and never looked back, I have nothing but praise for moble1. There are other good synthetic's as well, red line, castrol. royal purple, amsiol, and cosworth. Motorcraft is a blend of dino, and synthetic. Flash said nothing that would change my mind, he wasn't even putting it down, just expressing his findings. Now I'LL express mine, after using moble1 in the engine, and royal purple in trans,t-case, and diff. Motor runs smoother,and cooler, trans shifts easier, even when it's coid out, and I picked up another mpg. It seems like everthing I use, or have on my truck, you guys have something bad to say about it, Do everything to your trucks, that I've done to mine (if you had a 4.0) then you can tell me I'm crazy, in the mean time I'll just be crazy enjoying the hell out of my truck with all the stuff that doesn't work. I started using moble1 in 02, on my 4 banger jeep wrangler(I was a sKeptic), as I was driving the jeep around, it felt like it had 5 more hp( at a guess) I couldn't figure out what was a wrong with it, that it ran so good. Then I remembered putting in the m1, when I changed the oil. I don't allways feel a hp benifit in different vehicles, but I can allways see a benifit of some kind.

 

Here we go again Wendell with nothing but words!!!! Lets see some real data!!! We are back to the "Phantom Horsepower" again!! Wendall, you are
a victim of what's called the "Placebo Effect"!!

One other thing for you to consider Wendell.The 2.3L, 3.0L, and 4.0L all have the same diameter intake and air filter (and yes, it's a CAI just like Billy said).
The 3.0L puts out about 150HP, the 4.0L 200+HP. If the intake & filter was limiting the power on the 3.0L, how could the 4.0L put out 200+HP with the same air filter and intake??? Either you or Wave answer that question for me.

Speaking of K&Ns, I found an old thread with some interesting posts:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...d.php?t=198260

 

Yup, waiting for test data from a reputable business experienced in such matters. None out there from Roush, just like 4.0 products. And yes, I have a 4.0. I like to buy them when they are young rather than well used.

 

Heres what I will tell you, get a 4.0, install a cai, headers, catback,bama chips,udp, and a e-fan, then you can talk all the smack you want, untill then ,your talken out of your butt, I have it , you don't. I don't have to convince anybody, I have the mods, you don't, I drive the truck everyday, you don't, I know what my truck does now, compared to stock,you don't. Your truck is boring, mine isn't. HOW DOES A 4.0 PUT OUT 200 HP, WITH THE SAME FILTER AS A 3.0? I don't know Bob, maybe because it's a 4 liter sohc, instead of a 3 liter single cam for starters. When my truck burns the tires through 1st gear, and wll in to second, with 265's, and wouldn't before with 245's, thats placebo effect. When it ran a 16.4 quarter mile stock, and now runs a 15.6, thats phantom hp, give me some more of it. CAI is just a term, I'm saying, get out as much of the obstructions as posible, however you do it. You don't need real data, you need a real truck, and not be afraid to experiment with it, to seek it's full potental, but thats not what you want, or do you want anybody else to either. I like you a lot Bob, but some times your clueless. I bet you don't believe in god either, because you have no data. Iv'e been hopping up cars since 1972, and I for sure don't know everything, but I am sure allways learning. Your placebo crap don't hold water to someone who is use to hp, I'm not stupid, You tell me mine placebo, and you don't have anything built like it to know. I am done with fricken debate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Wendell, you missed an important part of my question, which I have included in your post above. And yes, I'm a christian, and do believe in God!!!!

 

I guess it must be because I'm not understanding what your asking, but adaquite flow doesn't mean that it can't flow better, or smoother. A panel filter alone is one dementional compared to a cone filter. My AEM on my focus reloctes the cone filter outside of the engine compartment, behind the bumper, with a bypass valve for water, that is a true cai, worth 6 hp at the wheels. Om the ranger, remove the airbox entirely, remove the plastic insert in the header panel to inlarge the hole. with the blast of air flowing directly into a cone filter, open on all sides, it can't help but to flow more air anyway you slice it. The stock airboxes are adaquite, and quiet, thats all that ford has to worry about. I am also a christain, all though you guys are making it hard at times(get behind me satan) I am a sunday school teacher at a southern baptist church, but I guess not a very good one, I'm letting this stuff get to me.

 

Gosh dang, my siggy might need a revison soon .

*Still no data of the right kind

 

Thank you for that.
Dono

 

I'll second that.

 

Regarding your K & N argument, as I stated before, if you are so sure of your self take it up with K & N, prove them wrong, and make them change there claims that you keep insisting are false. Here's a clue, you won't win that argument, they have all the statistical data to prove your wrong, but you go for it since you are so sure of yourself, I put my money on K & N's equipment, data, numbers, and my own personal experience over your false claims any day of the week.

I am not even going to get into the oil topic with a guy who refuses to beleive in the very most basic tried and true, well documented and proven methods used all over the world for gaining a little performance, you know making your engine breath easier. I would love to see you take your K & N argument or your oil argument up at any local race track with some serious gear heads, guys who do everything they can to gain even the very slightest gain in performance - you would be laughed out of the pits, even better just take you argument up with K & N since you are so sure of yourself.

And by the way, it's Waves, not Wave - if your going to call me out by name at least get my name right Bob.

 

Waves", where you been man"? I feel like Travis at the Alamo, they,ve been comming from all sides, and there relentless, but like Custer", I made my last stand, hee hee!!!!!!

 

Been on a little vacation, got to put some good miles on the beach a couple of days while I was out. I have been trying to step back from this one, they beleive what they beleive, and we believe what we beleive and I don't think there is any changing that on either sides of this.

 

I hear ya bro", it's been beat so bad , it's not even fun anymore. I hope you enjoyed your ( as the british would say ) holiday, we'll hollar at ya later!

 

Thanks man, any time away from the office is always enjoyable. Hey I saw a crew cab ranger pull into a store here in Houston. Four people of latin decent in the truck, I assumed it came from somewhere south of the border since they don't make them here. Was white and had the edge type fender flares, but was a little lower to the ground than an edge. Really a nice truck man, it pains me that they do not sell that truck here in the US.