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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 01:03 PM
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FM146 durability ? ? ? ? ?

I've heard a few people say that the FM146 mitsu trans is junk but I haven't heard much about why. I'm going to be putting mine to the test with up to 300ft lbs of torque. Will I snap a shaft or blow up gears or will it take the extra power? Thanks.
 

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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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I think you outta consider an upgrade. Considering it was built for the 2.9L 4x4, I'd be extremely wary of putting anywhere close to that into it. I'd say definetly consider an upgrade. What 300ft lb motor are you plannin' on crammin' into that Ranger?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 08:24 AM
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I think you outta consider an upgrade. Considering it was built for the 2.9L 4x4, I'd be extremely wary of putting anywhere close to that into it. I'd say definetly consider an upgrade. What 300ft lb motor are you plannin' on crammin' into that Ranger?
The motor, a turbo intercooled 2.3, was 240ft lbs stock so when I bump up the boost I should be in the 280 range. If I do an upgrade it has to be able to bolt up to a 2.3l engine. Also I will still be running the 1354 transfer case. I was leaning on going the auto route. I could use a pinto bellhousing and c4 trans with a c5 tail to almost drop in and take the beating but the way this engine winds up I think a manual trans would make much better use of the turbo. Thanks for the help, I'm open to ideas that can retain as much of the stock form as possible.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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You can run it till blows, shouldn't take long, or get the 5-speed from a mustang gt, or a turbo coupe that came with the turbo 2.3, your still gonna need to fab alittle because of your t-case. Advanced adapter may have an adapter for you application, I'd give them a holler, an auto would be allright, but a 5-speed would be the bomb!
 
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by wendell borror
You can run it till blows, shouldn't take long, or get the 5-speed from a mustang gt, or a turbo coupe that came with the turbo 2.3, your still gonna need to fab alittle because of your t-case. Advanced adapter may have an adapter for you application, I'd give them a holler, an auto would be allright, but a 5-speed would be the bomb!
Thanks man. I didn't know if there was a 5-speed that could take that kind of abuse and still bolt up to what I need but I guess that's just wishful thinking. Advanced adapters is good but so damn expensive.
 
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Did you try checking Ranger Power Sports? They're much more performance oriented than we are.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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Did you try checking Ranger Power Sports? They're much more performance oriented than we are.
No I haven't, thanks for the tip. I might have to look at TRS too.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 06:42 AM
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The mustang gt 5-speed can eaisily handle 300 hp, and it's the same trans used in the thunder bird turbo coupe. An f-150 4-speed from the 70's are very strong, and they have that granny gear, that would be nice in a 4x4, but they don't speed shift verywell. For fast shifting, the mustang trans is the better choice, but if it's lowend power you want, a f-150 trans may be the ticket, and you can find one with the t-case allready attached out of a 4x4.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:00 AM
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How much abuse do you all think a M5OD-R1 could take? It's not a full size trans but it is a total bolt in deal. Thanks for the tips too, I'm taking note on everything you guys are offering.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:23 AM
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How much abuse are you going to give it? I mean what do you intend on doing with your truck, the trans could last, it depends on how hard or often you pound on it. Crawling around in the moutains, you should be ok, mud bogs, or rock crawing, might get to be much. Not a bad choice as far as ease of installation, and as long as your not to hard core, you should be ok.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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someone in the 4 banger forum put a turbo on his 2.3L engine and used a 5-speed but he didnt say which if i remember correctly.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 06:40 AM
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Thanks guys. I really won't be doing too much offroad with it but I do plan to get on it once in a while on the street. Not like dumping the clutch at 3500rpm but giving the pedal a taste of the floor once in a while could happen.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 06:51 AM
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I think you'll be alright, good luck, and keep us posted on your progress, sounds like a cool project!
 
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by wendell borror
The mustang gt 5-speed can eaisily handle 300 hp, and it's the same trans used in the thunder bird turbo coupe. An f-150 4-speed from the 70's are very strong, and they have that granny gear, that would be nice in a 4x4, but they don't speed shift verywell. For fast shifting, the mustang trans is the better choice, but if it's lowend power you want, a f-150 trans may be the ticket, and you can find one with the t-case allready attached out of a 4x4.
They're both T5s, but the similarity stops there. Most V8 gearboxes were capable of handling 285-300 ft/lbs of torque. With the exception of the T5 found in 85-86 SVOs, most 4 cylinder boxes were in the 230-240 ft/lb range, even the Thunderbird TC box, which is the same as the later 4 cylinder gearboxes found in n/a 4 cylinder Mustangs. The SVO gearbox has a capacity of 255 ft/lbs.

Usually its the starts from a dead stop that are the hardest on any transmission. If you're stomping on it from a roll, then you shouldn't have much to worry about.
 
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