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Barry Bonds really did knowingly use steroids?

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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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Barry Bonds really did knowingly use steroids?

Even though he's denying it, a book is being published about it, and SI is reporting it as the truth.

Bonds did use Human Growth Hormones, Two types of steroids, and some other performance enhancers for the 5 years following Mark McGuires 1998 Home run record.

Of course Bonds is denying it, he has to, if they do find out he lied, he lied to congress.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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Bonds and steroids?

Try THIS entertaining read.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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Just for the record, I can't stand baseball.

Steriods = Cheating. Cheating = lying. And on that note, it's the fact these guys are lying that bothers me the most. Cowards. They're scared to tell the truth because it's admitting their "achievements" are a fraud.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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Lyle Alzado is waiting for you steroid users. He is up in Heaven now, and runs the "Died at a young age from the effects of Steroids" gate. Entrants of this gate may get to heaven eventually, but Lyle holds them back in purgatory for a few hundred years. God really doesn't like cheaters, but using roids isn't an official mortal sin, yet.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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I used to love baseball, grew up watching it as a kid. I hope Bonds isn't allowed to break the all time homerun record. It would be just another sad day in baseball, and probably the last straw with me.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 05:12 AM
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What gets me is that Pete Rose gambled. All he did was break a few rules. He didn't break any laws and now he will never get into the Hall of Fame. Don't get me wrong...I have never liked the guy but the truth is the truth. But now we got these guys like Bonds and McGwire who are breaking federal laws and we just dance around it because baseball has made a comeback and it's making $.

Houston, I think we have a problem!
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 06:32 AM
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What really gets me about professional sports in general is the rampant cheating that goes on. And as someone above said the simple truth is cheating=lying.

And how can you trust a lier to play an honest game?
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 08:51 AM
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On the other hand...
take a look at all the historical baseball "greats" and tell me if you REALLY believe their lives were lived any better and that they were any better than what bonds did...
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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Why don't they just leave Bonds alone? The guy's going to be out of the league in a year so just let him have a year of no media bull***** for once. I blame the media in this entire thing. They blow EVERYTHING out of proportion. So this new books says Bonds took steroids. Wow, I can write the samething about Derek Jeter or A-Rod and not back it up with any facts. But since it's in a book it has to be true, right?

I'm not saying that if Bonds did do steroids that it's right, because it's not. But the simple fact of the matter is if he did do steroids, they weren't illegal at the time he took them. If they weren't illegal when he used them, then he can't get in trouble for it because MLB allowed it.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Bonds, if he is innocent, absolutely has to come out fighting. If he doesn't, thinking this wil go away oni ts own, he is as good as admitting his guilt. If he has done nothing wrong, prove the reports wrong. The only thing he has to lose- if he isn't guilty- is the label of cheater. Oh, BTW, (Munkey) I'm pretty sure that there is difinitive proof in the book, not just allegations.

As for Big Mac, I think his situation is completely different. He admittedly took Andro, a substance that, at the time he was taking it, was completely legal. He also stopped using the Andro when the firestorm over it hit the papers. If you will remember, his knees started failing him shortly after that, and he retired. There is no proof that McGwire did any illegal enhancement. (Before you all start throwiing stones, please remind me of the proof against Big Mac- senate hearings? "I'm not here to talk about the past," isn't proof.)

I was listening to the radio this morning and the host brought up a very good popint. He said that all the greats- Ruth, Mantle, et al- may not have been doing steroids, but many of them were doing cocaine and all sorts of amphetamines. Again, I have no proof here, but I seriously doubt that all of our heros are as clean as we want to believe.

I still love baseball! And always will.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ag-ford-4x4
On the other hand...
take a look at all the historical baseball "greats" and tell me if you REALLY believe their lives were lived any better and that they were any better than what bonds did...
I disagree. Some of the "greats" have lived exemplary lives without notoriety. Many years ago, my wife met a young minor league ball player from Arkansas on a double date. She described him as "quiet, humble and very polite". He went on to play over 20 years, win 16 Golden Glove awards and the hall of fame. When questioned about the future at the peak of fame, he said, "fifty years from now, I will just be three lines of type in a record book". Here's a typical quote about him, "There's not a man who knows him who wouldn't swear for his integrity and honesty and give testimony to his consideration of others. He's an extraordinary human being, which is important, and the world's greatest third baseman of all time, which is incidental." - John Steadman of The News American. Barry Bonds and his elk will get the headlines, but players like Brooks Robinson are baseball to me.
Dono
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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Yeah, i mis-posted, i didnt mean ALL of the greats....i meant to type "some"....
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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I wonder how LOUD the boos will be at every stadium, except here (Pac Bell Park, or what ever it's called now) when he steps up to the plate?

One of the reasons why sports is taking a beating is because it's not sports anymore; it's a business.

And businesses will do Anything to make a profit.

They just turn their heads.

If he is found guilty, the asterick (*) may be larger than the record itself.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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S.I. today says: Sad reality to latest Bonds news: no more heroes where they list all the big namers that have fallen one way or another.

I can think of a few guys at the top of their games that don't have so many 'strikes' against them - but them maybe I just missed the mud.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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Ruth and Mantle Drank, heavily. The were also womanizers. They didn't take Steroids to better their game. The didn't drink to better their game, if anything, it hurt it.

The book that was written has over 200 interviews with people that know of Bonds steroid, human growth hormone, and insulin use. As far as I know, no one has hard evidence that McGwire did steroids.

As far as leaving Bonds alone for a year, I think thats wrong. Hes going to break the all time homerun record this year. So should we reward him for all of his illegal activity? No, He should be banished from the sport, and his records for the last three years stricken from the books. Why the last three years, those are the years it was against the rules in baseball to use performance enhancing substances. Before that he was only breaking federal and state laws, and who really cares about that? Sad day for baseball.
 
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