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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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5.4L OBD Code P1451

I drive a 97 Expy Eddie B with 118000 miles. Just shot a Code P1451(where's dick C). Can anybody help? Thanks
 
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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The EVAP system monitors the canister vent (CV) solenoid circuit for an electrical failure. The test fails when the signal moves outside the minimum or maximum allowable calibrated parameters for a specified canister vent duty cycle by PCM command.


A code P1451 may mean that one or more of the following has happened:

* VPWR circuit open
* Damaged canister vent solenoid
* Canister vent solenoid circuit open or shorted to ground, power, etc.
* Damaged Powertrain Control Module (PCM)


* Verify canister vent solenoid - To verify normal functioning, monitor the EVAP canister vent solenoid signal PID EVAPCV and the signal voltage (PCM control side). With the valve open, EVAPCV indicates 0% duty cycle and a voltage approximately equal to battery voltage. When the valve is commanded fully closed, EVAPCV indicates 100% duty cycle, and a minimum voltage drop of 4 volts is normal. Output test mode may be used to switch output on/off to verify function.
* Replace canister vent solenoid
 
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 08:22 AM
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The canister is mounted under the truck near the spare tire. The vent solenoid is attached to it.

Steve
 
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 07:01 PM
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I tested the cv sensor and got 54 ohms. I then tested the wiring harness from the cv sensor which showed only 2.59 volts. Do you think its a short, or should I pull the pcm and test the related pins?
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 08:40 AM
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It's probably not a short. It is far more likely that it is a bad connection, usually due to corrosion in the connector, causing a high resistance circuit.

What wire did you measure that on (there are two at the solenoid) and was that with the solenoid connected or not?

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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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I stuck my voltmeter in both wires at the solenoid connection wire harness. Then I checked the ohms at the solenoid connection. Will this code make the truck run any different? Thanks
 
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The solenoid was disconnected when i tested it.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 07:42 AM
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Measure from each pin to ground separately with the solenoid connected. With the solenoid de-energized, you should measure battery voltage on both wires. With the solenoid energized, you should show battery voltage on the R wire and near 0 Vdc on the P/W wire.

The CV solenoid is only for the evap emissions system. It won't affect engine operation. If you have emissions testing requirements where you live, it will automatically fail.

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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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Thank you so much Steve. I will try this on Saturday. Our state and local area (nepa) only has us test our gas caps.
Thanks again,
John
 
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