got truck back, one thing is that they said there was a flash out for my truck, but there hand held pc that they use to upload the flash was not working.i checked my boost on the way home still pushing 29 to 33 #'s of boost.
taking it back later this week to get the remain seal changed, etc
i wounder if the hand held pc they had was really down, i say this because maybe it would not work on my truck,, a few weeks back i had a edge tunner that went bad on me, i sent it back and got another and it works , but the data stream data is not all working on this new one, also i have a hand held scanner , that for some reason wont read my truck. so i wounder if that programmer that was bad did anything to my obd 2 port/pcm
kinda weird that there pc would not read right on my truck , and my own pc type links dont work on it ether ?
any idea's as to this.. anyone else see this before ?

 

I have an 06 bought last Sept. I can tell you that I routinely get up to 30 psi of boost, occasionally I might go slightly higher under a heavy tow load. I have never gotten to 35 and have read that I cannot without a tuner, and I have towed more than my rating. This being said, I don't believe that Ford is "detuning", though I will grant that it is possible. I have only the factory dash boost gauge too, accurate as it is.

 

No idea about your OBDII port Chad, but thanks for keeping us informed. Make sure to let us know when you do get that flash done, I'll be curious to see your #'s.

 

Also, I forgot to mention that Ford pays the dealers to perform the reflash so the dealer will do it anytime the vehicle comes in. You must ask that it not be done. My brother teaches in the Ford ASSET program and that tidbid came from him. His advice is to never reflash (my advice too) unless you are experiancing problems that you are trying to correct. Think about it in terms of computers, which you all obviously are using, anytime you update a driver or windows itself you run the risk of creating problems or at the least changing something, not always for the better.

 

ok, got the truck back this week and i can no longer tell what my boost is, because my edge does not work on it now, had to send it in for a update, funny thing is that my obd-II port no longer feeds data to the edge on the data stream, so no dtat stream just oil temp. saved stock program and sent it to edge. will let you know if i still have 29 lbs boost when i get a reg boost gauge. or edge back. oh and they did reflash my truck.

 

The 1st wek i bought my brand new 04 i had exhaust and digital gauges installed but no tuner.
I drove nice and easy from New Orleans to California.
Max boost was right at 29 but could spike to low 30's just like Chad Jones mentioned.
Then i went in for 1st oil change at dealer. They re-flashed my truck with only 2000 miles on it and guess what? It was a de-tuned cali emmission flash that brought me down to about 25 pounds max boost.
Took me a long time to finally it all out with Matt's help(psd6.0fx4).

If Ford decides it is in their interest to de-tune slightly then they can and will be as vague as possible about it.
If they were unfront i suspect less truck sales would be the result.

And yes i'm happy with my truck after it was re-flashed 49 state.

 

How accurate is the factory boost gauge on the 05's. Sould I install an aftermarket gauge?

 

I have a 2003 truck and in the first 3 years I owned it I only put the pedal to the floor maybe 20 times. I had tons of power, never even thought about it. Now I put my foot to the floor 3-5 times a day.
I have taken it back in to the shop and they replaced my Turbo, and it did nothing to help the power loss.
I don’t really care why this happened, whether it was on purpose or an accident. I just want it fixed.
I am about ready to go buy a new truck, and after this I don’t know if my next truck will be a Ford. I have owned 4 fords in the past 15 years and this is testing my loyalty.
Does anyone know if the SuperChips chips fix the reprogram problem?
Does anyone know if the dealer with reprogram your truck with the previous versions?

 

The dealers position is that the newer flashes replace the old ones so don't expect to ever be able to revert to an older program.
Running a scmt helped me out with my de-tuned cali program but wow when i finally ran the 49 state flash with the scmt.
Frankly though, if having issues i would sort them 1st before adding a tuner.

 

the 6.0 diesel runs a variable geometry turbo--what that is, the vanes inside the turbo move according to load request. the load is determined by mass air flow sensor-map sensor and epp sensor. the typical vgt turbo will develop anywhere from 23 to 35 psi of boost. any more than that, you do run the risk of engine damage. compressing that amount of air would be like compressing a brick. we are told to check boost at 3000 rpms under load. any less than 23 psi is defective. too much would show a stuck vgt solenoid.

 

I just brought my truck in to replace the vaccum pump, and I told them not to flash the computer. My truck is an '05 and came with the cal. specs new. Of course they did the recall flash anyway,now I do notice a loss in power, don't know about the mileage yet. To those who think we are imagining and want proof of a loss of power, Don't you think that we can tell a difference in the truck we drive every day? Speak for yourself and not for others. I don't care about the lawsuits and have no theories on fords motives, But I do notice a loss of power in my truck.

 

i have noticed 2 things about the new flash on my 03 PSD ,
1) my mpg is down about 2 mpg...(my 03 was getting 20-21 at 2k RPM(70mph) now its 18. (lie o meter might be wrong but should still read the same)
2) my transmission shifts firmer.(i also had a trans flash done so this might be why)
i dont know about boost beacause the new flash is blocking my data stream to my edge programmer. sent it back to edge to be fixed should have it late this week. i use to hit 29 lbs boost stock, so we will see

 

All we have at this point is, "I thinks or I feels". No one has any dyno runs that I've seen.

After the flash, my truck runs better and MPG is up slightly.

 

what i want to know is were did my data stream go ? and that is not i think or feel... i know its gone after the last flash !

 

as for the dyno issue, an appointment has been made in toronto in 2 weeks, on the 22 nd and the 23 to have all 3 of our f350 cc trucks dyno`d. we have been having grave power issues with both dualleys since the recall/re-flash. dealer acknowldeges some units exhibit horse power and TORQUE losses after the re-program. they (dealer)
have been bending over backwards to help us on this and other issues, but the area service reps, and the main techs from oakville ont. have been just a wee bit on the stubborn side on the power loss issue. they claim.. nada, can`t-won`t happen!!! and they have yet!!!?????? to recieve ANY complaints from customers or dealer techs on this issue.

since this re-flash restricts timing and turbo boost, affects the over-all performance ...on some??? vehicles..(ours) as the first step to a buy back on all 3!! we must have the dyno done. i will report the findings here for those who wish to view.

as an end user, CUSTOMER who purchased these vehicles with hard earned after tax dollars, expecting the hp/torque that was advertised and is printed in the brochures,
the thought of loosing 20% or more of that power upsets me. As a side note, we were ticked pink with all of these trucks when we bought them. They would do one hell`of a hole shot!!! daddy thought he has a few new toys.

ford has stated they are entitled to make periodic software changes to the pcm to corrct known issues, and that the advertised numbers of hp/torque are only GENERAL guide lines. (averages). if these updates effect operation of the vehicle and are deemed detrimental, (mass complaints) they MIGHT?? re-addrees those issues independently.

Not all owners are having issues and we understand this, this recall for egbp valve and a re-flash of the pcm has created some issues. we have them and a few others. we trust ford will come through and issue another fe-flash to reurn the lost power that all 6.0 owners paid for and expect!!! still think we have a good set of trucks here. just want to put this issue to rest. i know ford wants it to go away! but I won`t!!

all 3 of these trucks have less than 7 thousand miles on them. f350 cc lariats, 2 are duallys, never a programmer, or mods of any type. all 3 have had turbo`s,egr`s,both duallys have had trannys replaced.