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I am getting the impression that there is a considerable quality
difference between the commercial sprayed on liners compared
to the do it yourself Herculiner type roll ons available today.
I didn't want to spend the $300+ for a Rhino etc but I don't know if the Herculiner will be adequate or not? Any ideas from those that have used these products and studied the differences.
Greg in GA
I did quite a bit of research on this and looked at several pictures and talked with several people and finally decided on the Herculiner. I got 2 gals for $75 ea and already did the inside of the cab with it and it looks great and holds great.
I selected the Herculiner over the duplicolor after seeing the difference, the duplicolor looked like thick black paint, whereas the Herculiner has rubber bits in it to give it texture. I used a 1500# pressure washer and a sand blaster on it and it held nicely.
You can do extra coats if you feel you need a thicker coating, but 1 gal will cover about a 6 ft bed.
I like to go over it with the roller a few times as it's drying to get a bit more texture out of it. It ends up looking like 25 grit rubber sandpaper.
Besure to follow the instructions on using MEK as a cleaner and roughing the surface prior to applying.
I was thinking about Rhino lining my truck until I found out how much it would cost to do the inside of the cab and the bed (long bed). I was told $600, which was way more than I planned on spending. I read a lot of stuff on here about the Herculiner and decided to give it a try. Before I used it on my truck, I decided to do a little torture test by putting it on the pedals and the footboards of my old tractor. This thing is subjected to a lot of abuse and so far I haven't seen any damage to the Herculiner at all. The texture give a lot of traction so my muddy boots don't slip on the pedals the way they used to. Since the tractor test went so well I decided to use Herculiner in the cab of my 72 and in my bed and it looks great. It's only been on the truck a couple of months so I can't say anything about long term durability, but after seeing how well it held up on my tractor, I'll be surprised if it doesn't hold up well on the truck too. It is some pretty tough stuff. I used a total of 2 gallons on my truck (I put it on several coats) and paid $89 per gallon so the total cost was less than one third of the Rhino lining. I plan on lining the inside walls of my horse trailer with Herculiner next. Guess you could say that I am sold on the stuff.
Has anyone tried Por15 in their truck beds? I'm planning on buying some for the floor pans but if it's good on the bed then i'll make sure to buy extra otherwise i'll save the money to get Hurculiner.
My bed is a rusty but it looks like surface rust mostly...it's got pinholes in some areas.
Should i use maybe both on the bed of my truck; por15 first then hurculiner?
Ed, I was advised that por15 wasn't ment to be used in direct light. Something about not having uv protection in the paint, and it would turn chalkey and go south.
Can anybody back that up?
John
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In the cool still quiet of night you can hear chevies rusting away.
You are 100% correct, it is UV sensitive. I don't know what happens to it in the sun, but I've heard it still works but just changes color. Either way, Por15 is not designed for use in direct sunlight.
They offer a tie-coat paint that allows you to paint over it or is UV safe, but that's just more money.
As for the Por15 + Bedliner, that's exactly what I did inside the cab. I prepped the floor by stripping down to bare metal and using Por15's metal prep stuff (seem's to be exactly the same as the rust prep from Home Depot just marked up a bunch)
Anyways, I applied the Por15 in 2 thin coats and when the second coat was 'finger drag' dry, I used an laquer based primer then allowed it to FULLY dry, then applied 2 coats of the Herculiner. Looks great and seems to be holding up excellent.
I like the idea of doing the bed with this same method. You can probably find a cheaper method for rust prep (sand blast + epoxy primer) but I like knowing something like Por15 is under there protecting things.
Whatever you do, prep the rust. do not let the rust go untreated thinking the Herculiner will take care of it.
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