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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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Ignition lock cylinder or switch replacement

I have searched the forum and found the following two threads about bad ignition switch elements.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...d.php?t=391596
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...d.php?t=125701

It is cold outside and don't have a garag so i don't want to be outside fighting the wrong problem.

I am able to remove my key once the van is running and it used to to turn off just fine. Now it seems like even with the key in it never is in the correct off position. If you look into the keyhole you will see that they are not perfectly aligned. It I put the key in and wiggle it will fit and start with nor problems. Also once it is off the dinging sound doesn't.

I think I just need to replace the lock cylinder not the whole switch. Am I correct?

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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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Most of the time, it's just the lock cylinder, at least in my case. These Ford lock cylinders are awful!!!!!!!
 
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by copper_90680
Most of the time, it's just the lock cylinder, at least in my case. These Ford lock cylinders are awful!!!!!!!
Agreed, common Ford issue.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 02:08 PM
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Agreed, common Ford issue.
180K miles and three lock cylinders already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 07:17 AM
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Just what all do you carry on your key ring?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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I keep about 5 other keys and the ring the holds them together! I hate bulky keys in my pocket
 
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 08:18 AM
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That should be good. I have found that a lot of keys and fobs create too much weight and cause premature failure to the cylinders. My wife and daughters are the guilty ones in my household. Their vehicles suffer the cylinder failure more frequently than my truck. I show them my key chain to compare to theirs and they remain indifferent because Daddy will fix it at no cost to them.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 08:27 AM
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What all is involved in changing the cylinder? I have 196K miles on the factory cylinder, and it is showing signs of wear.


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180K miles and three lock cylinders already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 08:53 AM
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Go to your local parts store and buy a replacement. On the bottom side of the steering column there are four screws holding the plastic trim. Remove them and let the little plastic part fold downward. You can now see the the little hole with the retaining pin below the locking cylinder. Turn the key to run. Take a punch and push in on the locking pin and at the same time pull outward on the lock. It should remove fairly easy. Reverse the procedure to insert the new one. After you push the new one all the way in, the pin will partially enter the hole. Turn the key to off to fully seat the retainer. Piece of cake......

We are all complaining about the extra keys. Has anyone ever taken the old and new lock to a locksmith and tried having the new one re-keyed to the old key? Wonder if that is possible.....
 
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 09:56 AM
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With another 15 minutes of your time, you can take the little pins from the old lock cylinder and put it in the new one, and the old key will work.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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Steady hand and tweezers required.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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With another 15 minutes of your time, you can take the little pins from the old lock cylinder and put it in the new one, and the old key will work.
Have you ever done this with a door lock? How does the cylinder come apart so you have access to the pins?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cookkd
Have you ever done this with a door lock? How does the cylinder come apart so you have access to the pins?
I have only done this with the ignition lock cylinder. Just a small pair of tweezer or a small flat blade screwdriver would do. There is a strip of metal along the lock cylinder. Pry it off carefully so you can reuse it. The pins are underneath and there are small springs under them. Just transplant the whole thing over to the new lock cylinder and you are done, but make sure the pins go to the correct corresponding positions. Really easy. I imagine the Ford door lock cylinders are the same, since I had done the same with my Jeep Cherokee's door lock.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 11:14 AM
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I'm crazy enough to try this. Probably not until next week, though.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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Not sure, but you may not have to tear anything off of the steering column. I had a small hole in the bottom, stuck the end of a metal coat hanger in it and it popped off. had the switch in "run" position, put the new one in and it took like 45 seconds. Just like in the first post I did. My ignition switch is showing signs of wear though, may not dig into that anytime soon.

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