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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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Smile Ka-boom!!!

Hey evryone, first post, thought it would be appropriate since today i managed to explode my "C4", boy did it scare the poop out of me, felt like a shot gun went off under my but! but no external carnage to enjoy, how 'bout that.
I did manage to find a C-6 with 289/302 bell housing i want to put in, any input???
1969 2wd f100 302/c4-grenaded!
thanks everyone, look foward to the response(s)
 
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 10:48 PM
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are you sure that thats what it was? if you found a small block c6, yell thatll work for ya.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 11:21 PM
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not really, like i said, somthin exploded and now theres no gear foward or reverse that works in the trans, the engine still run great and the drive line and pinion are all intact, guess that points to the trans, yeah?
just not sure if i should throw in another c4, or do the swap for a c6 if its a simple deal, time is an issue and the trucks down time is killin me!
im hard on everything i drive so when the oppurtunity comes to build somthin that will hold up to my foot ill take it.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 11:43 PM
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I have a C6 the PO put in my 69 F100 before I got it. The C6 will use up alittle more power than a C4 but it will not be noticeable and is alot tuffer transmission by far. I didn`t notice any problem with putting in a 302 when I did it as it had no motor, just the transmission when I got it. As long as it is a C6 for the 302 it won`t be a problem to put it in using Ford parts.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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Yeah, I'd say go with the C6. I would make sure it's in good condition though.

Here's a little perspective:
I've got a C6 with a shift kit behind my 400+hp FE 390, in my F100. That transmission, so far, has been bulletproof. I dont see where a 302 is even going to touch one.

Assuming the owner of it says it's in good condition, I'd put a good shift kit in it, adjust the bands to the specs that come with the shift kit, change the fluid and filter, swap that sucker in and go!
 

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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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thanks for replies, i am going to have the trans rebult just so i dont double labor myself puttin it in then takin it out... thats a bunch of bs there! what am i going to run into as far as x-member, drive shaft, and linkage issues??? anyone...
currnetly the truck has a 2pc drive shaft and original c4 colum shuft linkage.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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Don`t entirely know what you will run into with the change over as the previous owner did it but I think that it maybe just a matter of moving the trans cross member if needed. Look over the two trans, you should be able to tell if there is any length difference that will affect the driveshaft. Sometimes the front yoke can be changed to to adjust for the different length. The shift linkage in my truck seemed to only need an adjustment to work properly. Hopefully someone that has done the entire change over will jump in and fill in the blank spots.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 11:57 PM
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so i went and picked up the c6 this after noon, it came out of a '67 mustang! hmmm, o well should do the job, hey!
im also going back and grabbing an orig '67 mustang 289ho minus crank, go figure
 
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 01:04 AM
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If it has a flange on the rear, it may also have a ten spline output shaft. IIRC, the yokes used on the c4s were 16 spline, so it may not work.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 69_f100
so i went and picked up the c6 this after noon, it came out of a '67 mustang! hmmm, o well should do the job, hey!
im also going back and grabbing an orig '67 mustang 289ho minus crank, go figure
Check the tranny shop to see if they have a truck shifting arm that they can put into the tranny for you. The one on your new tranny should be angled down like at 45º, and you need one that runs parallel with the pan line.

John
 
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 11:22 AM
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Never realized that 67 Mustangs had C6 with the 289. I thought that a C6 was only used in heavy duty applications such as vans and trucks behind a small block.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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so they are rebuilding the new slushbox though right?
 
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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For a truck with C-6 and two piece driveshaft wouldn't you need to convert the Mustang C-6 tail shaft "slider" to a truck "flange mount" tail shaft? If rebuilding now would be a good time to convert.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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Are you sure the tranny went?

Did you put it in gear and check to see if the driveshaft wasn't spinning?
Broken Pinion, spiders, or axle shaft could give you the same results.
Just making sure you don't invest into something you don't need.

It may be a good idea to get the driveshaft yolk from the Mustang to help with the change over.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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C6 is nearly 6 inches longer than the C4 also the trans mount is in a different location.

I doubt the trans was original to the 1967 Mustang with a 289.

My 2cents
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